Comments on: A Paul-Bachmann 2012 Ticket https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Roy Bleckert https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17607 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 21:31:28 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17607 A Paul/Bachmann ticket sounds fantastic …stranger things have happened ?

]]>
By: Michael https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17593 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 03:06:32 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17593 More on the Entitlement vs. Defense spending off-topic discussion:

Add the Budget Tables of the US Government, which are posted on the Government Printing Office webpage, to the entitlement to defense, 2 to 1 margin, and it is apparent that the focus on defense is indeed a legitimate concern, but the not the existential threat that rapine entitlement programs are.

(http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/sheets/hist03z2.xls)

Given that defense has become, in essence, an entitlement for the masses and the American aristocracy alike, the 2 to 1 margin argument becomes more persuasive.

Therefore, the issue is thus: Either you believe in compulsory giving or you do not. I am indifferent to any compulsory giving argument presented since the onset of the Progressive Era.

On topic:

The most we can hope for from Rep. Paul is the occasional inconvenience he has proven over the years to statists. I am not certain that a presidential bid would do anything other than distract from issuing subpoenas from the Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy.

]]>
By: Michael https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17592 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:34:53 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17592 Entitlement vs. Defense: I do not support the neanderthals within the Dept. of Defense or most of our World Democracy Tours of the past either. (Read: Because of the enthusiasm we displayed in disregarding the Principle of Double-Effect and Just War Doctrine during most of the 20th Century. Serendipitous seems to describe our general punch-drunk intent and the commensurate results.) But, I believe that your figures are in error, and ask for your source documents.

Paul-Mercer: That was funny. However, the general public would find both too esoteric and both are too principled to navigate the requisite dancing bear routine that is required of all candidates. As I stated earlier, the Media has no intention of permitting a principled candidate or a transcendent candidate to hold the megaphone. (The Media understands its mistake with that war-mongering Reagan.)

If you believe that the Internet will provide more access, consider how both parties are already shoring up their defenses to track those sorts.

It’s actually kind of clever how it will begin, too. It will begin with complimentary statements associating Rep. Paul and Rep. Bachmann with the Tea Party (Tea Party favorite, darling of the Tea Party, etc.) before eventually transitioning to an association with more vitriol and slanderous statements about the Tea Party. In other words, neither has a snowballs chance of navigating the GOP and the Media.

]]>
By: irongalt https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17591 Tue, 25 Jan 2011 00:21:11 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17591 Bachmann is scary. Has she publicly denounced her former employment as a lawyer for the IRS? (not to my knowledge) – It makes you wonder if all her anti-tax talk is really genuine.

Still, my vote would go to a Paul-Bachmann ticket because of Paul, and in spite of Bachmann.

]]>
By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17588 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:44:23 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17588 Michael: DoD budget in 1958 was 51.8 Billion – add inflation and you get 380.3 Billion in 2009. The government spent at least 750 Billion or more if you add the DoD, the “off budget” Global War on Terrorism, Homeland Security, Veterans Affairs – then there are other hidden funds related to national security in Department of Energy, State, etc. Some say it approaches $ 1 Trillion – and this is mostly against Neanderthal Moslems, not a Soviet Union with Nobel Prizewinning scientists. Yes – payments to Granny have gone up faster than payments to the DoD but ALL spending has been going up like crazy. And Granny spends her money back in the US, unlike Hamid Karzai.

]]>
By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17586 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:09:42 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17586 “It will take a 1964 Goldwater style “principled defeat” for a major party to lead the path to a limited governmental constitutional state and I don’t see it happening.” Truer words have never been spoken.

]]>
By: Steve Hogan https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17585 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:08:57 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17585 How about a Paul-Mercer ticket? I’d vote for you.

]]>
By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17583 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:37:41 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17583 To rephrase my skepticism, the gap between Ron Paul or myself and Dubya Bush (or McCain or Gingrich and most “conservatives”) is more than an order of magnitude greater than the gap between Republicans and Democrats. They may spend billions of ads and 24 hours news network bloviators arguing over a few billion bucks in the 4 Trillion dollar leviathan but the duopoly (Republicrat-Demoplican) and their Ethanol-Goldman-Sachs-Haliburton pals have been mismanaging the country for generations.

It will take a 1964 Goldwater style “principled defeat” for a major party to lead the path to a limited governmental constitutional state and I don’t see it happening.

]]>
By: Michael https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17581 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:26:57 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17581 “The country is sliding into bankruptcy and default and the largest principal culprit is the Interventionist Foreign Policy. Yes, spending oodles on Socialist Insecurity, Medicare, and the like are problems but most of that money is at least spent internally.”

The previous statement within the comments section is simply not based in reality. According to Heritage, amongst others, entitlement spending exceeded defense speeding in 1976. What’s more, entitlements exceed defense by a 2 to 1 margin. (Heritage 2010 Budget Chart Book: Defense Spending Has Declined While Entitlement Spending Has Increased.)

Closing 700 of the 737 United States military installations worldwide and eliminating 2 million of the 2.5 million personnel within the defense industry is a fine thought, but to achieve any sort of reduction of the federal budget, elimination of most entitlements must be considered, first. (The special forces sorts tend to carry far more of their fair share anyway. So by eliminating the positions of the malingering masses, we could expect an overall amelioration.)

If the door is not closed on entitlements soon (read: the Baby Boomers) it probably would be impossible to do so at all.

With respect to the ticket, the Media will suddenly discover a fondness for Gov. Palin and/or Rep. Gingrich about this time next year; thereby, assembling another lame duck Republican ticket. Although I like the fairy tale about Rep. Paul incarcerating bankers, the Media has no intention of allowing a transcendent candidate to hold the megaphone again. (A mistake that was made once by the Media with a nitwit from Hollywood.)

]]>
By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/a-paul-bachmann-2012-ticket/comment-page-1/#comment-17579 Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:40:25 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=33759#comment-17579 The country is sliding into bankruptcy and default and the largest principal culprit is the Interventionist Foreign Policy. Yes, spending oodles on Socialist Insecurity, Medicare, and the like are problems but most of that money is at least spent internally. The War on Drugs is another major case of Federal malinvestment. Ron Paul is correct on these issues. Gary Johnson of New Mexico seems reasonable. I am not sure where Michelle lies on some of these critical issues – the gap between “conservatives” and “libertarians” is rather large and not trivial to bridge in light of what the Bush family did over 2 decades of Big Government Conservatism.

]]>