Comments on: Climate Chicken Littles

By: Carolus

Carolus — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:13:49 +0000

I'll just add a quick amen to that, Ilana. I'll also add that it would help this whole discussion if the scientsts involved in the climate studies would be forthright and honest about their findings, even if they should not fit into a pre-concieved propaganda-type notion. I can only tell my fellow BAB readers what I see on the ground here. It's been a particularly devastating summer here with horrific drought. Cornfields here were burned to crisp by Labor Day. There are any number of theories and explanations of why this is so. Nvertheless, I somehow expect that my 6-year old Toyota, Ilana's handsome new vehicle, or a friend's new Hummer have very little to do with the death of Sassfrass and Oak trees on the acre of land I am blessed to have stewardship over. I'll continue to plant young trees to replace and replenish the area I've been granted stewardship over, though. We must carry on in hope and faith, for otherwise we fall into the abyss of nihilism. We all need to commit acts of rebellion, no matter how small, against the forces of nihilism and death every day. [Hear! Hear! Btw, our cold, rainy season has begun early. The lesson is that one cannot generalize from one-case studies.]

By: Ilana Mercer

Ilana Mercer — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:02:20 +0000

In response to Carolus:

Scientists might have more data these days, but they seem more than ever to be prone to mythical, irrational thinking. So, having lots of data doesn’t preclude drawing the wrong deductions therefrom.

By: Carolus

Carolus — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:28:44 +0000

I can only tell you about my little acre of ground here in Southern Illinois. We used to have winters here, and autumns as well. We really do not have these seasons any longer. Instead we have summer and non-summer. Pests that traditioally died off in winter (like fleas) survive all year now. It just does not get cold enough at night. Snow is a great rarity, while in my youth it was common. Huge, ancient Oak trees have died from insect infestations. The climate pattern has clearly changed. Now, I’m not so willing to say it’s all the result of our activity. It could be, to a minor degree, perhaps. The earth has warming and cooling cycles that are not dependent upon our activity.

By: Carolus

Carolus — Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:18:22 +0000

[But in the 1970s they were “fairly agreed” on the opposite: cooling.]

Indeed they did. So, the more important question would be: do they know more now than they did then? Even if they do know more now (it’s fairly obviously that they do at least in the medical field) how seriously should we take them?

By: Stephen Bernier

Stephen Bernier — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:51:59 +0000

We have experienced much cooler weather here in the Charlotte, NC area for the past couple of days. We actually set a record low for October 24th. I suggest that a public service announcement be made: “The preceding below normal temperatures have been brought to you by Al Gore and the fine folks of the global warming group”

By: Frank Zavisca

Frank Zavisca — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:44:27 +0000

Celeb Gas Guzzlers

This is just free advertising to these freaks.

http://www.tmz.com/2006/10/18/celebs-who-claim-theyre-green-but-guzzle-gas

Like Bono, Angelina, Katie, and Madonna they receive free publicity they couldn’t afford to buy by supporting “good causes” – like “protecting the earth” and “loving African babies”.

By: Frank Zavisca

Frank Zavisca — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:39:05 +0000

People have always been confused by weather patterns. In the past, they blamed "dark forces" - such as witchcraft. [great analogy] There was also an undertone of religion, and that this included people doing sinful things, and the weather was a result of these sins. Today, we have better science, but the dominant force in the Global Warming debate is the religion of secular humanism - Earth Worship. [Gaga for Gaia] And the fate of the world - massive flooding - is still considered to be the result of the sins of people who drive SUV's.

By: Jeanne

Jeanne — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:44:45 +0000

These people can’t predict the weather next week and they are going to tell me what is going to happen climatically 10 or 50 or 100 years from now on the basis of some “warming” they think might, possibly, indeed maybe, occuring?

Balderdash.

[LOL]

By: Carolus

Carolus — Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:46:40 +0000

As I understand it, most of those in the climatalogigal sciences are fairly agreed that the planet is indeed warming up. The real dispute is over whether said warm up is the result of human activity (seems a tad hubristic to me) or simply part of our planet’s natural cycle.

[But in the 1970s they were “fairly agreed” on the opposite: cooling.]

By: Stephen W. Browne

Stephen W. Browne — Tue, 24 Oct 2006 14:07:17 +0000

For what it’s worth, when I was in Poland teaching English at the new College of the Exact Sciences, none of my colleagues bought into any of the climate disaster scenarios. And please note that Poland has been producing world-class physicists and mathematicians for over a century.