Comments on: Updated: Daddy Brown Creeps Me Out (He Should You Too)

By: ~greenhell~

~greenhell~ — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:54:58 +0000

I think it’s a culture that has come and largely gone. My upbringing and my parent’s values are well in line with yours, Ilana. (I don’t feel comfortable calling you Ilana, for instance. Should I?) However, I’m from a large Catholic family and my parents are of an older generation. It wasn’t until I entered college when I realized just how conservative my upbringing was. For instance, I never, ever used curse words at home and certainly didn’t talk to parents like I would to my friends. It’s a shame that the proper parent-child relationship is looked upon as old fashioned, and not as a unique relationship that should be upheld and celebrated.

[Friends of mine, homeschooling Christians, will not allow their young boys to call me anything but Mrs. Mercer. It depends on the age of the person and the familiarity. I certainly cringe every time a waitress says to me and mine, “What can I get you guys today.” But on BAB, among my pepes, I’m “ilana.”]

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:23:31 +0000

Less than two hundred years ago, it was a father’s duty to be involved in selecting his daughter’s husband. No father wanted his daughter to marry below her station but above it, if possible. I did not hear Brown’s speech and thirty seconds of his daughter’s singing sent me back to Nightwish in a heartbeat; but if he was trying to interest a higher class of suitor, that could be a good thing, if he were throwing them to the wolves that’s different.
Mike, in his comment about Conservative Pretoria, was just trying to be fair in pointing out the differences. In my case, I’ve always considered you to be a model Victorian. From your preference to black dress and strict rules of penmanship, dictation, and grammar; as well as a standard of moral principal, you represent the standards of a Conservative Libertarian.
In contrast, the Presidential runner-up’s daughter flaunts her chest as her literature and moral qualification. John Locke was a conservative, libertarian Puritan. It’s not an insult to be included in his class.

[Yes, but does this amount to a different culture, or the culture under which we once lived and thrived? I didn’t think that the old SA and USA were different planets.–IM]

By: ~greenhell~

~greenhell~ — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:02:21 +0000

Before I read your update, I thought the Cyrus-two was in fact a run-of-the-mill pair of models. It’s hard to imagine there is a father-daughter relationship in there that I would recognize. No surprises here either, Sean Hannity is a big Billy Ray fan:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/18/billy-ray-cyrus-others-to_n_144610.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,515077,00.html

By: Van Wijk

Van Wijk — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:00:40 +0000

It demonstrate to me that even conservative-minded readers are incorrigible cultural libertines. Indeed. Even people who identify as conservative tend to want all the fat and none of the calories in this modern age, just as liberals do. Self-sacrifice for the greater good is for the most part a foreign concept; they'll stand on principle only until it comes to something that they really like. It turns out that these faux-conservatives find serial fornication very agreeable, especially during their college years, and aren't prepared to give it up. Alas.

By: John Danforth

John Danforth — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:24:56 +0000

You’re right Ilana. It is beyond repair.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:17:00 +0000

Brown’s public offer of his daughters seemed more of a father teasing his daughter in a public forum, a sign of a close knit family. I didnt find it creepy.
And for the picture? How it found its way into public view is more of an issue than the picture itself.
Family weekend at the beach. So what?

I hope my daughters will still want to spend time with me when they are of that age.

Perhaps this is more of a cultural thing, Ilana. I lived in Pretoria for several years (I am American), I saw the very conservative white culture in that city.

By: Steve Hogan

Steve Hogan — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:17:56 +0000

The difference is that one pays for a pimp’s “services” voluntarily.

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:48:29 +0000

Senator? Pimp? Is there a difference?

By: George Pal

George Pal — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:25:27 +0000

Father Brown requites his girls’ exhibitionism for a shared ambition – celebrity. Lost on father, daughters, and mother - your’re still a nobody even if everybody knows it.

By: haym

haym — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:24:18 +0000

I agree on all counts. I felt awkward about the Brown offer of his girls. And yes, being at a university, I see that sort of behavior all over. As a man who appreciates women, I prefer to do the appreciating in a dignified and honest way, leaving the sexuality aside rather than have it thrust into my face. Certainly sexuality can be an important part of who we are, but it looses its power when it becomes common. The mind is a wonderous thing – let it develop its powers by working its magic on all fronts – from physics to imagining the possibilities of the person that attracts our gaze.