Comments on: UPDATED: Deadend Debates (& State Death Squads) https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Myron the Taxing Grim Reaper! https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18978 Fri, 27 May 2011 13:36:57 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18978 I do have a disagreement with Ron Paul and the “better” elements of the Tea Party movement – and that is on the tactical “no tax increase” alliance with the “borrow and spend” Welfare-Warfare Republicans. The trouble with the “starve the beast” concept is that most Americans live in the present and are perfectly fine with: agribusiness subsidies, HuD housing, Astronaut ballet, foreign aid, No-Child-Left-Behind, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. AS LONG AS THEY DON’T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT! This is similar to the apathetic college kids who could care less about Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan since it is paid mercenaries and not them getting shot at by the Mujihedeen. Broken windows are fine as long as you don’t have to see the window!

Because of this, I think tax increases may be the ONLY way to get Americans teed off enough at big government to shut it down. Otherwise, we will keep spending until the Chinese/Europeans/etc. shut the spigot and, in the meantime, listen to the bloviating O’ Reillys pontificate about the 0.000001% of the budget spent on Bear Fornication Studies!

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By: David Smith https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18976 Fri, 27 May 2011 13:23:16 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18976 Again, spot-on! As has so often been said here, without first principles, our only recourse is to pragmatism. How can all of these so-called conservatives wax eloquent about constitutionalism and then label as insane a man (i.e. Ron Paul) who actually takes the original intent of that document seriously? How exactly are they conservative? What are they conserving?

Okay, I know the answer to that, but I still hate it!

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By: Stephen Bernier https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18973 Fri, 27 May 2011 07:30:19 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18973 Hope you are feeling better. What has happened to “you are responsible for your actions”? Mushy headed is apropos.

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18970 Fri, 27 May 2011 03:31:28 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18970 “You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye. Then you will see clearly to remove the piece of sawdust from another believer’s eye.” Thanks Myron. This is the first time I’ve seen that quote on the net. Actually though, I don’t think they would understand what Ilana is referring to.

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By: Bill Meyer https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18969 Fri, 27 May 2011 00:29:00 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18969 So glad you’re feeling better, WND (and me) miss your presence.

Your critique of constitutionally-flaccid conservatism is spot on. One of my theories concerning the relatively ho-hum reception of the current GOP field is that honest conservatives can’t tell the Tea Party types what they desperately want to hear: “We can balance the budget, garrison-state the world, keep taxes low, AND continue free social security and medicare ponies for everyone”.

Brighter GOP bulbs know they can’t promote this with a straight face, hence will not bother running.

Ron Paul is the exception, but he’s not in the GOP mainstream. (unfortunately)

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By: Graham Strouse https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18968 Thu, 26 May 2011 23:53:16 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18968 I got banned from commenting at HuffPo for criticizing their hysterical and misleading headers. I’m quite proud of that, actually… 😉

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18967 Thu, 26 May 2011 23:23:23 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18967 Here is one of my favorite examples of how conservatives act (and, ironically, Democratic governor Kaine turned down the Federal money):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/15/AR2007121500773.html

Conservative favorite: “Abstinence ‘education’ “. Amazing how I “learned” to not stick it everywhere without federal money!!!!

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/deadend-debates/comment-page-1/#comment-18966 Thu, 26 May 2011 23:18:59 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=38180#comment-18966 Get well – I am hoping to see you and Sean in August. [Very cool; Sean enjoyed meeting you.]

I have spent the last 40 plus years watching “conservatives” who scream about the budget while growing government more and more and more. Sounding sanctimonious about the constitution 0.0001% of the time when it comes to Bear Fornication or National Public Radio while ignoring a completely illegal war in Libya doesn’t give me much hope. Cutting even one week of the Afghanistan War on Neanderthal Pushtuns would pay for hundreds of Kangaroo Wrestling Matches in Jello. These lamebrains must be pounding their puffed up chests with pride that some staffer can find one of these “Golden Fleece Award” candidates:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Fleece_Award

which was originally set up by Democrat Senator William Proxmire.

Jesus would have a good response to these Big Government Hypocrites self-proclaimed “fiscal conservatives”:

http://bible.cc/matthew/7-5.htm

“You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye. Then you will see clearly to remove the piece of sawdust from another believer’s eye.”

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