Comments on: UPDATED: Decoding The Plan to Make Detroit Work (Blame Honky) https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Eric Zucker https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-21262 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 17:26:20 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=45518#comment-21262 Wow! I guess I did a poor job of expressing my point of view. I certainly didn’t mean to blame honky. Thinking about it, I should have been more specific when writing, “blacks from other parts of the world don’t exhibit so called ‘authentic’ black culture.” I was thinking Colin Powell and the high percentage of successful Haitian immigrants though I agree that principle doesn’t apply to black South Africans and others.

Jews, Chinese and Poles succeeded here though they experienced much prejudice because their cultures supported positive behavior. Black culture fails when it supports negative behavior. While prejudice may be a factor it is inadequate as an explanation.

I agree that the slave’s African Black culture was inferior to a lot of southern Anglo-Saxon culture even before the influence of English redneck culture. I also believe that before leftist honky’s good intentions were backed up by legislation, black culture was beginning to self correct.

There are much evidence. Black unemployment and illegitimacy rates were lower than white’s both among adults and teenagers in the 40’s and 50’s according to Sowell and others. One of the best if not the best academic high schools in Washington D.C. in the 40’s was the black segregated high school according to my mother who lived there.

My intended larger point was that culture–not race–is the problem. There is certainly room for discussion about how culture develops.

In any case, man possessing free will, bad behavior is logically the responsibility of the one displaying it regardless of his culture.

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-21261 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 14:43:48 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=45518#comment-21261 Clearly a subject to go from more than one angle to. In my community, its understood that the wealthier sections get better treatment and we have a quarter cent “extra” tax to pay for the “improvements” on the lower side. I think that’s normal in one form or another for most communities. Some large “democratic” cities are just figuring it out that there is no free lunch. Eric and Thomas Sowell have a point but, I don’t think it is completely accurate. The South did get a lot of immigration from the Cumberland Gap of Northern England which was mixed Irish, Scots and English with unsettled cultural values. Poor Blacks would naturally be included in that hodge podge; however, there are a great many good stable Black people and Black communities dispersed all over this country. The problem Blacks are all from large cities where production is limited and social services prevail. I don’t think that there are easy answers to the poor of any race, white, black, red or yellow.

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By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-21260 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:56:29 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=45518#comment-21260 Eric, you win the prize for the most far-fetched piece of illogical reasoning of the month. Black culture is what it is because the slaves copied English “rednecks” and the way they acted and lived? What about Haiti? What about Africa? What about looking at things realistically instead of through some set of rose colored glasses in an attempt to deny the obvious. You sound like a university sociology professor or someone else equally deluded.

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By: Eric Zucker https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-21259 Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:33:22 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=45518#comment-21259 The problem isn’t “hard-core racial differences”. The problem is hardcore cultural differences. Too many blacks, though not all, in this country embrace the culture of the white “rednecks” and “crackers” from England who settled in the antebellum south. This culture from England included such negative behavior as sexual promiscuity, laziness, belligerence, propensity for violence, crude manner and language, disrespect for education, etc.

Black slaves copied this culture. They passed it onto their progeny. It remains to this day to a substantial degree among blacks though it has withered away considerably among whites.

Thomas Sowell documents this history in his book, “Black Rednecks and White Liberals”. Blacks from other parts of the world don’t exhibit so called “authentic” black culture.

Government welfare programs encouraged this behavior by rewarding its product, unwed mothers, through subsidies–thus helping to keep it alive.

People who embrace this culture tend to fail not because of their race but because these behaviors aren’t productive.

I am not a racist though I am a culturalist. By that I mean I believe some cultures are superior to others.

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By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-21251 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:42:07 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=45518#comment-21251 To Trilby:Well said. However in today’s world of government control I don’t think the Whites would be able to set up any kind of militant community without being squashed. Remember the lenient, kid gloves coddling shown to black rioters will not be extended to Whites who buck the system. A pliable, obedient black population is necessary for the left, read Democrats, to gain complete control of the country. They’ve got to keep the Whites down and silent and paying the taxes. Their black minions are costly indeed for their masters to support.

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By: Trilby https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-21250 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:31:45 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=45518#comment-21250 Because such “recognition” involves admitting the reality of hard-core racial differences in mental and moral capacities. From South Africa to Haiti to Detroit, the effects of the Black Undertow are obvious. Whites will either flee, form their own militant communities, or be swept away by it.

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By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/decoding-the-plan-to-make-detroit-work/comment-page-1/#comment-21249 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:31:08 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=45518#comment-21249 The left/liberal, Democrat establishment can cling to predominantly black communities, which guarantee a destroyed cities. Taxes sky high, union dominated schools and services, white flight, crime and corruption: all go hand in hand. Detroit is just a sample of the worst. I don’t see any improvement in sight no matter what they try. These communities are incapable of changing because they are incapable of recognizing the root problem, which is the problem of pretending the population is actually able to operate on a 21st century level. Detroit, Chicago, New York, California, Somalia, South Africa, Haiti and all the rest have the same situation and face the same barbarous fate. I wonder why this is so difficult for people to recognize.

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