Comments on: Updated: Don’t Ask Don’t Tell For Hets & Homos https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8922 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:33:21 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8922 DADT, theoretically, is based on the privacy and integrity of the individual warfighters. Sadly, we are a society of busybodies that have to spy on our coworkers, make love to our coworkers, and preach to them (and to the rest of the world). The Anti-Gay forces went around spying on e-mails or harrassing gays. Conversely, the gays want to be protected to openly strut their stuff just like the heteros did at Tailhook, etc. Just our debased culture airing out its dirty panties in public.

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8918 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:56:07 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8918 Sorry, I missed editing out the “is” after “internal”

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8917 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:53:24 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8917 No getting around it, we will have an open ‘single gender orientation’ segment in our military someday as we do a ‘female component’. My concerns are not with whether they can serve honorably or not, but what will be the internal policy dealing with it. There has to be a reason why so many women get pregnant in the armed forces now, when they didn’t when I was in the Navy; despite all the anti-reproductive methods available. That tells me that something internal is to the military is out of whack. Congress loves to try to develop military policy from Washington and the Chief of staff kow tows. Ilana wrote an article about a commander who stated that he would prosecute women soldiers for getting pregnant on active duty. (I can’t find it in the archives) which I believe is a good policy, if followed with common sense. The Joint Chiefs should have made it mandatory. The military knows how to make, women and ‘Gay’ service people effective integrated parts of the service branches, but I don’t see them trying.

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By: Van Wijk https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8916 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:11:23 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8916 Absolutely spot-on. But a federal army that is feminized to the point that young men will accept early discharge or simply refuse to sign up in the first place is a net gain for the real patriots.

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By: Gringo Malo https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8909 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:22:16 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8909 Well, I see that your main argument was against women in the military, a practice so absurd that nothing need be said. Perhaps you hadn’t arrived in the U.S. when DADT became the government’s policy, but the old policy of actively excluding homosexuals before wasting money on their training made much better sense.

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8906 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:15:43 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8906 Arguably, gays and women and heterosexual adulterers love their country. So do kids, old people, blind, deaf, midgets, and obese people. Why not let EVERYONE serve? It’s fair, right? Liberia has child soldiers – so why can’t a 16 year old carry and M16? What’s the problem with a 70-year-old pilot? Why can’t a deaf person do navigation? How does one draw the line?

Also – are there limits on BEHAVIOR? After all, it may not necessarily be about being gay but about promoting other gays, having a network of lovers, proselytizing vs. militant Christians also proselytizing. Maybe a few Klansmen and Black Panthers can serve too. Could be fun.

To that mix, add the usual “affirmative action” and “sensitivity training” sideshow. Who will fail to promote the black transgendered corporal and risk charges of bias?

However, does it really matter much? Our military budget is that of the rest of the world put together. Most of what the military does is to expand the American Empire, not defending our country. Thus, it is difficult to say whether this sideshow Love Boat circus really matters at all.

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By: Gringo Malo https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8905 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:32:55 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8905 I can’t believe that you’re defending DADT, which was an innovation of the Clinton administration. Before 1993, recruits were specifically asked whether they were homosexual, and any who answered in the affirmative were excluded. Though a false claim of homosexuality was a ticket out of military service, few recruits exercised the option. Most normal young men would rather die.

This ratcheting process is the reason why the left always wins in the end. Conservatives railed against DADT in 1993. Now, you argue for its preservation. The left never compromises, and none of the left’s advances toward degeneracy is ever reversed.

Needless to say, DADT is just a step on the route to transforming our armed forces into a homosexual haven. As things are, we admit homosexuals, train them, and then kick them out because they’re homosexual. That doesn’t make economic sense, does it? The left’s answer, naturally, is to allow homosexuals to serve openly. Naturally, the left fails to understand that no decent family will then want its sons to serve under homosexuals, no pun intended.

By the way, are you aware of the Army’s policy on HIV-positive members? They’re not discharged, even though the two most common risk factors for HIV infection are cause for discharge. HIV-infected “soldiers” are not depolyable outside the continental U.S. (CONUS), but continue to receive the same pay and benefits as real soldiers. For some reason, this absurdity seems to receive less publicity than DADT.

[I don’t usually post arguments that so blatantly misrepresent mine, but someone is bound to correct you.–IM]

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By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8900 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:29:41 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8900 There was a time when I scratched my head and couldnt figure out what the attraction of women for the military was. It just didn’t make sense. Then I figured it was for politicians placating the growing, liberal base of our culture. But there’s one other consideration. Most teen-age boys seem to be crack head thugs, ritalin soaked mama’s boys or limp wrists who want to grow up and be dancers. Maybe the military needs women just to fill the rosters. Most girls think they can be seals and rangers anyway, just like in the movies.

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By: Andy https://barelyablog.com/dont-ask-dont-tell-for-hets-homos/comment-page-1/#comment-8897 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:30:44 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=21066#comment-8897 You’ve hit the nail on the head with this one Ilana. I don’t think this new policy will likely change much in the way the modern military works as the overwhelming problem is still women, both gay and straight. Volumes could be written on this subject and I have encountered more than a few female Marines who admitted that they thought women should be banned from the military and detested the fact that they could never get equal respect as individuals because of the way they received favorable treatment as a group.

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