Comments on: Updated: Fascism Rising: Demanding Your Data

By: ~greenhell~

~greenhell~ — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:34:42 +0000

Not trying to be an ass, but it says “fare” share and not “fair” share? [fixed]

By: George Pal

George Pal — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:08:33 +0000

George W. Bush: "If they're worried about the government intruding into their personal lives, they ought to think about it." "We want as accurate a count as possible, but I can understand why people don't want to give over that information to the government. If I have the long form, I'm not so sure I would do it either." Providing any information other than numbers for reapportionment serves the government (and its partners) in the abdication of its duty to protect the rights of its citizens for its preferred role as social engineer. Rep. Bachman and even the obtuse (GWB) can see the intrusive nature of the modern census and its ultimate use to mold the ‘kinder’ and build a better ‘garten’.

By: ~greenhell~

~greenhell~ — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:46:20 +0000

Did it really say "fare" share? I've already thrown mine away. [YES]

By: John Danforth

John Danforth — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:18:17 +0000

The rules are as simple as every kid on every playground quickly learns them to be.

The bullies in the biggest gang make the rules and enforce them. Justice is what people will submit to. Nobody wants to be the one they pick from the herd to make an example of, because everybody knows their neighbors will huddle in fear rather than help them, secretly glad it’s not them this time. Enforcement options range from ridicule to physical attack.

People act this way and nations do, too. Exceptions are rare and are brought about by rare individuals being prepared to seize the opportunity when the leading gang overplays its hand.

By: Van Wijk

Van Wijk — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:32:45 +0000

And if you’ve been in the service at some point within the past few decades, DoD has a DNA sample.

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:40:07 +0000

Anyone remember the famous TV show THE PRISONER about a totalitarian place called “the Village”? There was a memorable opening scene in each episode where they wanted INFORMATION:

http://www.museum.tv/eotvsection.php?entrycode=prisonerth

Prisoner: Where am I?
Number Two: In The Village.
Prisoner: What do you want?
Number Two: Information.
Prisoner: Which side are you on?
Number Two: That would be telling. We want information, information, information…
Prisoner: You won’t get it.
Number Two: By hook or by crook we will.

Life, of course, imitates art.

By: Gringo Malo

Gringo Malo — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:43:21 +0000

I’m afraid I don’t see the point of the Census questionnaire. As Steven says, they know all about anyone who has a job, and any other members of his family, from his income tax return. They know all about everyone receiving government benefits. The only people for whom they don’t have ready information are the “homeless,” and they could easily count all of them by offering each a free bottle of Mad Dog. Of course, I still haven’t figured out why a government that issues a fiat currency needs to collect an income tax, unless it’s just an Orwellian assertion of power.

By: ~greenhell~

~greenhell~ — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:26:24 +0000

For what it’s worth Steven, the power to tax by the Federal Gov has been amended into the Constitution. Most tax protesters seem to rely on saying it was improperly ratified. I feel confident rejecting all parts of the census other than the one question that will ask how many people are in my household.

Besides, depriving the gov’t of money will get a much stronger response than depriving it of information.

By: STEVEN

STEVEN — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:54:02 +0000

This is a tough call. It seems ‘they’ already have your information so ‘they’ know where to come and get you.
Is the battle worth the cost?
I think back to the stories I have read on various occasions where someone has challenged the personal income tax, citing the constitution as the authority, only to read later of their incarceration and/or legal woes.
I guess this is what ‘they’ are counting on to subvert resistance.

By: james huggins

james huggins — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:42:20 +0000

Constitution? We don’t need no stinking Constitution.