Comments on: Update II: Heather Ellis Against The Police State (Plea-Bargain Shakedown) https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8250 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:21:16 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8250 “your definition of Christianity is faulty.” No argument,from me.

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By: M. B. Moon https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8247 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:48:44 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8247 Whoa Robert Glisson! First her religion is irrelevant. Second, your definition of Christianity is faulty.

The punishment should fit the crime. Talk about your temper? If our justice system doesn’t repent then folks will conclude there is no justice and we might see riots and other violence.

When it goes well with the righteous, the city rejoices,
And when the wicked perish, there is joyful shouting.
Proverbs 11:10

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8246 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:45:25 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8246 Is it a forced guilty plea, if you have been through the trial, and the judge says “It’s time for the jury to decide. The jury stands to go to the jury room for deliberations and the defense attorney jumps up and say’s “your honor, my client wants to plead guilty.” If she was not guilty, why didn’t she let her peers decide?

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8244 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:40:13 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8244 Plea bargaining “justice” game. The prosecution charges Ellis with 101 charges of resisting arrest .. so that she folds her hands, pleading guilty to one charge – –

LESSON: never “disobey” the police.

Flip side of prosecutorial overkill – in the case of the father of my daughter’s friend trying to arrange sex with another friend of my daughter (ugh!!) – Right now, the suspect’s wife (probably at the suspect’s behest) is telling people that this was all orchestrated by the mother of the victim…. So the victim, her mother, the Fairfax Police, and the FBI all conspired to maneuver this pillar of the community to send lewd texts and e-mails and arrange a tryst with a girl whom he KNEW to be 13 years old. This is hard for me to fathom. But I could imagine a “dream team” of high priced gunslinger lawyers threatening to smear everyone in the community to the point that the prosecution folds its hands.

Justice American Legal Style is, unfortunately, a game to be won or lost (like football) and not a search for the truth. Plea barganing is just some of the dirt that goes behind closed doors as part of that game.

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By: Eric Siverson https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8241 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:28:00 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8241 The cashier was right: put her back and if she won’t behave, throw her out of the store. Forcing her to plead guilty or face a possible 15 yr. sentence is showing who is boss, isn’t it? I think forcing guilty pleas is phony justice, and under many circumstances is wrong . But its done all the time by our phony justice system .

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8236 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:42:55 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8236 Ref: 11-23-09 update. Cop’s is a semi-scripted corroboration between the producer’s and cop’s for ratings and has as much to do with reality as, “Demolition house” on HGTV. My main concern is with “Heather Ellis” (Now that I’ve cooled off, well sort of.) CNN and ABC did a job of yellow sheeting this one. A: That woman is not a Christian, Jesus taught that you respect the property of other people; she stole another person’s place in line, then B: refused to move to the back which Jesus said she should do. C: Jesus also said that when you are judged to be in the wrong, you repay double. She never once even apologized to the people she cut in line, the clerk, Walmart. I won’t mention the police who had to put up with a rogue, because they have a thankless job. If she is an example of her church and its pastor (her father) then that is not a Christian Church. Jesus said that people who disobey his teaching would get exactly what she got, so justice was done, in spite of the phony race card.

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By: M. B. Moon https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8224 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:03:26 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8224 “If everyone who got peeved and angry in a shopping line were arrested, this country would have fewer people than Canada.” Myron Pauli

I have lived in the South, South West, and North West and I have never or almost never encountered such behavior.

Oh no! The coming glaciers will force a lot of rude people down South! I know, I’ll move up into Appalachia where Yankees fear to tread.

re Roger Chaillet:

Blacks (and others) historically favor the Federal government because what it gives is obvious whereas what it takes is not.

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8222 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:39:13 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8222 If everyone who got peeved and angry in a shopping line were arrested, this country would have fewer people than Canada.

Forgive my digression but, sadly, some REAL CRIME has hit home lately – it turns out that one of my daughter’s friends cound not attend her birthday party 2 weeks ago because she was sick. It appears that the 51 year old father of a classmate of that girl who is a good friend of my daughter was sexually texting her (and proposed her coming to an apartment for intercourse). This led to an FBI sting and he is now arrested. The community is completely shocked (a sort of Jeckyll and Hyde case it appears) and divided. I had to break the news to my 13 year old (since it was inevitable she would find out) who is quite creeped out. My daughter was at his house just one week ago.

However, in our modern society, the police are mostly concerned about THEMSELVES first, second, and third. The angry woman who probably needed 10 minutes to calm down was facing 15 years instead since she challenged their authority.

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By: Roger Chaillet https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8221 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:36:18 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8221 Steve Hogan repeats the Big Lie about the Tuskegee Experiment. The Big Lie has been debunked. http://www.vdare.com/taylor/tuskegee.htm

As for the military, most of those coming back in body bags are white. Whites make up the majority of infantry and armor and take the brunt of casualties. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002519115_wardead25.html The majority of blacks in the military “fly” desks for most of their careers. I know this as I was raised next to an Air Force base in Southern Maryland. Almost everyone who resided in my childhood neighborhood was active duty, or retired from the military.

Social Security is a highly regressive tax. This is true irrespective of race. It should be opposed on this basis alone.

Blacks like government programs. This is why they are not anti-statist libertarians.

Ditto for Hispanics.

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By: M. B. Moon https://barelyablog.com/heather-ellis-against-the-police-state/comment-page-1/#comment-8218 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:25:17 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=17372#comment-8218 DWB = driving while black.

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