Comments on: Update 4: Huffing Over Hagee https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Steve Stip https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3189 Tue, 27 May 2008 00:44:48 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3189 ‘Pastor Rod Parsley also said that “America was founded with the intention of seeing this false religion [Islam] destroyed.” ‘

I don’t know about the above statement but I do know that Columbus desired to fight Islam via a new trade route to the Indies. So the DISCOVERY of America is certainly linked to a desire to oppose Islam as the quote below shows:

“Your Highnesses, as Catholic Christians, and princes who love and promote the holy Christian faith, and are enemies of the doctrine of Mahomet, and of all idolatry and heresy, determined to send me, Christopher Columbus, to the above-mentioned countries of India, to see the said princes, people, and territories, and to learn their disposition and the proper method of converting them to our holy faith; and furthermore directed that I should not proceed by land to the East, as is customary, but by a Westerly route, in which direction we have hitherto no certain evidence that any one has gone.”
from http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/Columbus1.

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By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3187 Mon, 26 May 2008 22:58:06 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3187 Dear Mr. Khiyal:

I wanted to respond to your assertion that Jesus will return and solve all problems. I believe that He will, but not anytime soon.

I do not believe, however, that Christians can count on Jesus to solve our problems, here and now. We must evince a healthy regard for the Constitutional principles upon which this nation was founded, and a respect for individual rights. If Christians don’t do that, if we “worship” the government and seek to bend its power to our ends, we risk falling into idolatry and laying a foundation upon which many individuals will be deceived.

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By: gunjam https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3184 Sun, 25 May 2008 22:24:24 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3184 Correction, the one phrase SHOULD have read: “the three biggest defenders of Hagee in the media that I have heard thus far (Medved, SAVAGE, and Mercer) are all… Jewish?”
My apologies for the typo.

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By: Fanusi Khiyal https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3183 Sun, 25 May 2008 21:21:49 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3183 1. As regards this kind of evangelism being as ‘american as apple pie’, so what? So was segregation; justifying something on the basis of tradition is no basis whatsoever.

2. The belief that Jesus will return and solve all problems seems to me to be the worst kind of pipe dream, at the time when the West can least afford any kind of wishful thinking.

4. I still haven’t heard any comment about the marginalization of the anti-Jihad efforts because of association with this kind of lunacy.

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By: gunjam https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3181 Sun, 25 May 2008 05:53:00 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3181 Ms. Mercer: Thank you so much for your reasoned defense of John Hagee. You are truly kind to call him an honorary Jew, as I suspect that nothing would make Hagee happier than to read that! Why is it that — if Pastor Hagee is such an Anti-Semite — the three biggest defenders of Hagee in the media that I have heard thus far (Medved, Hagee, and Mercer) are all… Jewish? The question is self-answering. Too bad John McCain is too pea-brained to realize that — by disassociating himself from Hagee — he was, in effect, sticking BOTH evangelicals AND Jews in the eye. Though not a member, I have attended Hagee’s church, and he displays a flag of Israel in the main auditorium — how is that for Anti-Semitism in action? Update: I wish you hadn’t closed comments on the FLDS Update: Wow! You NAILED it! Only you, Michael Savage, Vox Day, and Joseph Farah even seemed to come close. As you say, O’Reilly and Grace were over the top on this naked act of tyranny. Where was Texas’s Republican Governor on this issue?…..

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By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3178 Sun, 25 May 2008 00:10:40 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3178 Dear Mr. Khiyal:

It is actually not that unusual for Bible-believing Christians, including Pastor Hagee, to give some thought to conditions currently unfolding in the world with respect to biblical prophecy about the end times. It is not particularly strange to suggest that the Antichrist will come from Europe, or indeed, be the head of the European Union. European Christianity is very weak at this time, which is why my church and many others send missionaries there. European youth hunger for values upon which to base their lives, and European Muslims provide such “values,” non-Western in the extreme. This fact underscores the continued and absolute need for Christian missions to Europe.

In the nuclear age, that “fascination” you speak of with the Book of Revelation is not only helpful, but essential. If we truly understand that times are not only tough, but biblically-ordained, Christians like me might be more successful spreading the Gospel message to those who have not yet heard it.

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By: SteveStip https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3177 Sat, 24 May 2008 23:21:43 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3177 My mother lives where Katrina hit. On visiting there, I was struck by the seeming ad-hoc pattern of destruction. Buildings that you would not have expected to survive did and they were next to seemingly stronger buildings that did not. Based on that evidence, I cannot rule out Divine intervention.

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By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3175 Sat, 24 May 2008 20:17:53 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3175 Given that actions speak louder than words, it’s important to remember that Pastor Hagee has helped raise millions of dollars in support of Israel. Anti-Semites don’t do that; the anti-Semitic libel against Pastor Hagee is baseless, in my opinion. That said, I would disagree that God sent Hitler against the Jews to bring them home to Israel. Rather, I believe that what man intends for evil, God can use for good, similar to the argument made by Mr. Swanson, above.

Commentators such as Keith Olbermann appear not to understand the biblical basis behind Pastor Hagee‘s remarks. Anderson Cooper understands even less. Both commentators, and their colleagues, could do Americans a favor by at least attempting to gain some knowledge of the foundations upon which such comments are made. I doubt that will happen any time soon.

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By: Fanusi Khiyal https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3174 Sat, 24 May 2008 07:31:48 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3174 Believe me, I understand the Islam/Muslim distinction, and I bow to none in my antipathy towards Islam. But that doesn’t change the fact that Hagee’s other views are crackpot, such as the one that Katrina is a vengance on a sinful city, or his rather odd ideas about the End of Days (e.g. the antichrist will be the Head of the European Union). In the nuclear age I fail to see how a fascination with the wierdness of Revaltions is helpful. [Once again, you seem unwilling to understand that evangelicalism, weird or not, is a branch of Christianity with its own doctrines. The fact that you—and I—do not identify with it, means nothing to the millions who do—or to an intellectually meaningful debate, for that matter.—IM]

Ayn Rand wrote: “To say that your position is based on faith is to imply that reason is on the side of your opponent” She was talking about a defence of capitalism, but I submit it applies to discussing Islam. It just marginalizes and discredits the anti-Jihad movement. [This assertion is simply wrong; she was talking about religion being rubbish, irrational.–IM]

As I said before, the religious right have been crying wolf about all sorts of nonsense – gays, secularism, wicca etc. – and now, when the real wolf is before the door, they find they’re not taken seriously. Surprise, surprise.

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By: Jamie https://barelyablog.com/huffing-over-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-3170 Fri, 23 May 2008 16:22:29 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=640#comment-3170 Hagee is a non-starter for the liberals, even though they are trying their best to make it blow up. Was McCain in Hagee’s pew every week for over a decade?

Every candidate has to deal with a few endorsements they have to later distance themselves from. It’s not a reason for me to withold my vote from McCain (I have plenty more reasons to do that!).

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