Comments on: UPDATE II: Libertarianism Lite Likely Won’t Cut It

By: DAve

DAve — Fri, 01 Jul 2011 00:39:30 +0000

No intelligent discussion of the relationship between libertarianism and anarchism can go very far without consideration of the intellectual pinnacle of the field,
Libertarianism: Bogus Anarchy by Peter Sabatini:
http://theanarchistlibrary.org/HTML/Peter_Sabatini__Libertarianism__Bogus_Anarchy.html

By: Matthew Swaringen

Matthew Swaringen — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 12:58:04 +0000

anarchocapitalism is simply the thorough application of the NAP. Lew Rockwell is definitely an anarchist, and good for him. He proudly displays anarchism on his site: ex: https://www.lewrockwell.com/store/ (plenty of anarchy shirts there).

Ron Paul is borderline anarchist himself, as he advocates no use of force (you can point out his view on borders, but while he doesn’t agree with amnesty he’s not calling for any positive border enforcement that I’m aware of beyond an enforcement of private property rights).

Anarchists are not utopian in any form or fashion. We believe that the world would be better without the monopolization of force that exists within the state, but we certainly don’t believe people will suddenly become angels and everyone can trust one another and there will be no suffering/etc.

Certainly there are anarchists like Stefan Molyneux who look to also improve the general human condition by focusing on child abuse and upbringing, but none has ever said that in a voluntarist society no crime will occur.

By: susan 28

susan 28 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:56:58 +0000

btw it’s “Wimmin’s” 😉

By: susan 28

susan 28 — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 05:55:28 +0000

I came to orthodox liberalism/libertarianism from the left, having supported that “side” because the right seemed more hostile to the “liberties” that impacted me most as a libertine, but was, as the Christians call it, “convicted by conscience” when confronted by a libertarian activist at a Gay Pride fest in Atlanta, who showed me the inconsistencies in my platform of government intervention for “good” reasons like “helping people”, pointing out the obvious fact that they ALL think they’re helping people, including the modern-day “PiMPs” (Post-Millennial Pietists) who’ve made my life miserable – and whom Mr Rothbard posthumously via our friend Lew Rockwell has recently pointed out were the originators of some of the very policies i then supported.

Prohibitionists as the original welfare-staters? Of COURSE, because ALL pity is rooted in CONTEMPT!! THAT’s THE CONNECTION!!

Talk about an epihpany. Now, when i see the laws, i see the guns, and the wagging fingers of those meddling old Wilsonian hags and cringe. Cuz much as i hate havin’ ’em pointed at me, i’m loathe to think i’m part of them being pointed at someone else – even to “help people”.

That’s all it’s about for me now, is not MY freedom – which we libertines are always accused of being “in it” for – shit, i got MY freedom SUSSED, baby, don’t worry about me! – but doing all i can do stop the Regime from doing this shit to others with my money, which to me means unless i’m willing to do jail for not paying taxes then I’M their oppressor and i just cant STAND that thought..

And if it wasn’t obvious to me, if i could get to my 20’s (i’m 50-ish now) without making the connection.. that’s scary. Any Left Libertine like me who’s shown the connection will be easily disabused, but man, that programming’s sticky isn’t it.. sometimes you just need the scales removed.

By: jt

jt — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:17:46 +0000

CROMWELL @1:35
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That was a ridiculous link.
You should check your definitions concerning anarchy.
There is no single defining position that all anarchists hold, and those considered anarchists at best share a certain family resemblance.In broad terms, anarchism is the rejection of coercion and domination in all forms, including that of the priests and the plutocrats.

It is a stretch to claim that Mr. Paul or Mr. Rockwell are Anarchists , but even if they did share some anarchist-type beliefs, what would be wrong with that?
Some people do not need the heavy hand of authority to exist.

By: ThinkAnarchy

ThinkAnarchy — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 01:41:31 +0000

I found your blog through Lew Rockwell and enjoyed this post. I will have to bookmark it to see what else you have to say. I hope I find some attacks on Glenn Beck, I can’t stand that pseudo-libertarian.

By: Jennifer

Jennifer — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 01:33:48 +0000

Brilliant article about Terry Schiavo (linked to in a comment above).

By: My Ron Pauli I

My Ron Pauli I — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:34:44 +0000

CROMWELL: I got turned on to Ilana Mercer via the Lew Rockwell site (until she got excommunicated for some “crime” of “unorthodoxy”??). I read Basham’s essay which was partially true and partially “warmongeresque” … and my opinion:

(1) Yes, there is some stuff posted on LRC.com which is wacky and paranoid but a lot of stuff that is spot on. I can shop at the supermarket for eggplant and not broccoli can do similarly with LRC.

(2) I am not an anarchist. But if I’m in New York heading to New Brunswick, I can get on the commuter train SOUTH even if I don’t want to head all the way to Trenton (anarchy). I certainly do not want to take the Obama Express or the Romney Local to Connecticut (e.g. bigger government)

(3) Why should I get into a fight with people heading in the right direction and opposing those heading in the wrong directions? It would be like Orthodox Jews and Reform Jews fighting each other in the Polish Ghetto rather than the Nazis!

(4) Re: Lincoln, Churchill – they’re somewhere in between the “gods” that the Mainstream have elevated them to and the “devils” in Rockwellian theology.

By: Mike G

Mike G — Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:07:56 +0000

Ron Paul is a political front? No he is a Texas representative, how anarchistic can you be when you are a rep in the US congress and elected by Texans? I guess quite a bit considering the source of the accusation.

A front? yes it is an affront to logic to be accused as being an anarchist when that someone who has to put up with the constant drivel from DC and their Boobus Americanus minion.

By: NotBob

NotBob — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:13:32 +0000

Liberty requires responsibility and the willingness of the population to allow bad decisions to be the learning lessons they should be. I see the ethical and moral decline of our country as a symptom of the socialism that is so prevalent here – no consequences for your actions, someone constantly telling you its not your fault. Building self esteem by giving the losers a trophy as well as the winners is the very definition of nanny state socialism in America today!