Comments on: Update III: Middle America Or Meathead’s America?

By: Hugo Schmidt

Hugo Schmidt — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:50:15 +0000

Finally, there is no debate about evolution. Evolution is supported by the entire scientific community, and by not just some, but all the evidence there is.

By: M. B. Moon

M. B. Moon — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:43:49 +0000

“Look, the majority of Americans are not libertarians – but even if 10% – 30% are, there is not much to do in an election but vote for a lesser evil, not vote, or vote for someone who will get no notice and the usual .5% – either way, we still have the Warfare-Welfare state.” Myron

Yes, but only necessarily for the next four years. I doubt this country could be destroyed in four years even if we elected Adolph Hitler or Joe Stalin.

Don’t be panicked into violating your principles.

By: Haym Benaroya

Haym Benaroya — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:22:15 +0000

Ilana, thanks for your response regarding Gottfried. I can understand that we can agree with much of what another writes or says without agreeing with everything. And I do agree with you regarding the “Holocaust industry”. But I would just point out that some beliefs can destroy an otherwise harmonious relationship. Again, for example Hamas, an apparently good provider of services to Arabs in Gaza. On the bad side, they lob rockets into Israel at civilian targets.

Haym.

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:50:35 +0000

I gave $ 2300 to Ron Paul early in 2007 and of course I voted for him in the Republican primary.
But he was not on the ballot in the general election.
I paired for Obama (with a friend hopefully voting for Chuck Baldwin in the district). Since 1988, Ron Paul’s Republican primary campaign was the only elected run for the Presidency by an advocate of limited government with a modicum of credibility, media coverage, and financing.

But for the general election – or for example Bush vs. Kerry 2004 (my daughter cast a vote for that clown Badnarik) – what to do? Look, the majority of Americans are not libertarians – but even if 10% – 30% are, there is not much to do in an election but vote for a lesser evil, not vote, or vote for someone who will get no notice and the usual .5% – either way, we still have the Warfare-Welfare state. Unless one lives in a cave, Unabomber style, we have to live in this mess.

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:40:44 +0000

Ron Paul, before dropping out of the Republican primary for the 2008 presidential election, came in second place in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Oregon, Nevada, Montana, Indiana, Nebraska, South Dakota, New Mexico, and the Marianna Islands. He placed third in Maine, Washington, Vermont, Rhode Island, Washington D.C., Alaska, North Dakota, Utah, Wisconsin, Ohio, Texas, Mississippi, West Virgina, and Kentucky. He did not place first in any state.

John McCain came in first in all of the East Coast and West Coast states except for Maine and Massachusetts (they went for Romney). He won only two states in the Midwest (Nebraska and South Dakota), swept the Mideast except for West Virgina, and took only Texas and Louisiana in the (non-East Coast) South.

In the 2008 presidential election, Obama took all of the states on the East and West Coasts except North and South Carolina, all of the Mideast plus Minnesota and Wisconsin, and two states in the West (Nevada and Wisconsin). Ron Paul took no states; he was not on the ballot.

Whatever support Ron Paul enjoyed, much of it came from the heartland. In the general election, the highly cultured States went for Obama. McCain lost; mission accomplished. As the saying goes, “you can have anything you want, but you cannot have everything you want.”

By: haym benaroya

haym benaroya — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:21:33 +0000

Dear Ilana, do you agree with what Gottfried says regarding Finklestein? I have heard Finklestein speak about Israel in ways that would do Hamas and Hezbollah proud. Unless I am missing something – and I am not knowledgeable about Gottfried at all – I am no friend of anyone who has kind words for Finklestein. Am I misreading his praise?

http://www.takimag.com/site/article/a_tale_of_two_normans_podhoretz_and_finklestein/

Haym.

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:22:53 +0000

From what I read in WND, Mr. Paul won just about every ‘debate’ and captured the hearts of many ‘young Republicans’; however the Republican National Committee wanted McCain. The RNC ignored Ron Paul in favor of McCain and it is the RNC that has the final say in their endorsements, newsletters, etc. The whole federal election process is a sham with smoke and mirrors, in my opinion. The only way to break the establishment is to have a massive revolution from the rank and file. A fifty percent write in so to speak, which comes from an educated public. Mr. Gottfied writes ‘intellectual books” to be read by other intellectuals. I and others like me, are more interested in restoring good government. Recently I took a break and read John Ringo’s “The last Centurion.” The book is a ‘down to earth’ primer on modern government in the US. He classified Libertarians as impractical and though he didn’t say it, endorsed the Republicans. The Last Centurion, will sell over a half a million copies, at least. Think of how many new Republicans that he will politically educate, while we contemplate our navels intellectually.

By: M. B. Moon

M. B. Moon — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:59:33 +0000

Conservative: The frog in the pot of water on the stove who is content with the current temperature of the water.

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 06:10:59 +0000

Sorry Ilana, I’ve got to go with Myron on this. Ron Paul was not presented as a viable option. Especially in Oklahoma. Maybe if I changed my registration from Libertarian to Republican. He might have been on the primary list, but I doubt it. Right now, we can’t even get recognized in OK. Nationwide, the Libertarian party can only muster maybe 400,000 members. The major thing is as Mr. Gottfried said, the people are ignorant. But lack of education is not their fault. He needs to write to fewer intellectuals and more common people. Glenn Beck and Ann C. sell off the shelves, but they are Republican pushers. The liberals have their guns too, where we Libertarians can only boost John Stossel’s “Give me a break” Plus the R & D have radio and television too. A little less blame and a little more help would be appreciated.

[This doesn’t make sense either: “wasn’t presented as viable…”; what does that mean? Ron Paul ran as a Republican. Meathead American could have elected him at their convention, and not McCain. Instead, they spent their time getting hot for Palin. Paul G. is right.]

By: M. B. Moon

M. B. Moon — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:06:35 +0000

“[I don’t see the logic of this post: everyone could have voted for Ron Paul. That was a choice. It would not have delivered nirvana, but it would have indicated that the voter had a conscious mind.] ” Ilana

And this: Suppose 25% of the population ignored the lesser of two evils and wrote in Ron Paul? Would the main stream media be able to ignore him the NEXT election? Would Obama have any kind of mandate?