Comments on: UPDATED: Monarchy Vs. Mobocracy (“Albion’s Seed”)

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 02 May 2011 15:43:48 +0000

The Netherlands were well known as a haven for religious freedom, which is why the English Pilgrims were there in exile from religious intolerance in England, before going to found their own style of religious freedom in the New World; and that religious freedom of the Protestant Netherlands was extended also to Jews who had fled from earlier persecution in Catholic Spain and elsewhere in Europe, and there were many Jews living in Amsterdam, and publishing Hebrew language books, and the Jews were happy to stay in Amsterdam; but the Catholic King of Spain tried to conquer the mostly Protestant Netherlands, and Protestant Queen Elizabeth of England fought the Catholic King of Spain, yet while the English monarchs opposed absolute English religious freedom, tolerating only minor religious dissent in England. A complex mixture of religion and geo-politics, which continued for more than two hundred years. It would seem to be true that the Netherlands and their American colony of the New Netherlands and the New World city of New Amsterdam were a major source, although not the sole source, of American religious and political freedom, and not merely because the English Pilgrims had come from the religious freedom haven of the Netherlands.

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Sun, 01 May 2011 21:32:48 +0000

I can’t say much about English history, I remember William of Normandy invaded, took over and I think the Scotland Royalty are in there somewhere. I do believe that there are some people who are natural leaders. We regular citizens simply do better with their direction. The cream rises to the top, so to speak. In this case, I think the cream has soured. William, like his mother is more concerned with Africa than home. Everyone wants to be accepted. Why should an Indian or Pakistani in England embrace the crown; when his prince ignores his children to embrace a foreigner. If he spent as much time trying to get the immigrants inside Britain to accept the English system and the Monarchy, like lifting a White/Brown or Black British subject into his arms instead of some other country’s kids, it would do a lot more good. Queen Elizabeth has been seen numerous times with English commoners and their children. I’m only speaking about William, not the immigration problems.

By: Bastiaan Schouten

Bastiaan Schouten — Sun, 01 May 2011 20:30:54 +0000

Ilana,

You mistake the origins of US Liberty and limited government as being British. There is nothing, except a weak Magna Carta, in English history along these lines. Freedom in England has its origin in the Dutch occupation (also called the Glorious Revolution in 1688). Most US institutions and freedom are Dutch, the rest “urban legend.” The US Articles of Confederation have the Treaty of Utrecht as their model. Prior to the US the Netherlands was the only successful federal republic and world power. New York, a Dutch city, was and has always been the largest in the US and its center of finance, pluralism, and tolerance. The Pilgrims came to the US from Harlem fleeing Dutch freedom of religion.

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Sun, 01 May 2011 16:08:20 +0000

Hoppe makes some interesting points on debt in world countries since World War One (including the American empire) – a product of “democracy”. Indeed, it is the product of Republicans cutting taxes (in the present) and burdening the future generations and the Democrats spending – although the two parties trade roles willingly for votes. Basically, it is the mob ensuring the growth of government and the further slavery/dependency on government to new generations.

The period between Bonaparte and Sarajevo (1815-1914) saw unprecedented growth of freedom and prosperity with only “minor” wars. It was replaced by a mob of authoritarianism and totalitarianism that lasted until 1991 in some places. Meanwhile, the remnant of Europe is in population decline being overrun by immigrants, the West is pumping phony money, and the US Empire has gone paranoid to the extent of fondling children in the name of fighting terrorism.

However, like Humpty Dumpty, there is no real monarchy to be “restored”. I agree with Lester Hunt that something else may be coming – but I fear it is likely to be even worse than our current situation.

By: Lester Hunt

Lester Hunt — Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:23:03 +0000

Of all the kinds of government that have so far been tried, the democratic welfare state has so far gotten only the briefest of trials. Whether it will have the sort of staying power that absolute monarch had is, I would say, extremely doubtful. With the world-wide debt crisis, it may be on the verge of morphing into something else. What is coming next I don’t know.