Comments on: Updated: No More Making Whoopy In The Military? https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8509 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:10:25 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8509 Naturally, it was bound to happen. The army just backed off from the pregnant policy

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091224/ts_nm/us_iraq_military_pregnancy

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By: Mike Bassett https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8506 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:39:03 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8506 I can only add, with my now muzzled words, that I was utterly surprised by the unavailability of differences of opinion here. I see now that I must totally agree with the discussion at hand lest I be filtered by those who appear here. As far as the statements made, I stand by them. As far as my opinion concerning “classical liberal” conversation goes…er…I don’t see the difference here between what just happened to me and what the current government does to those who differ in view. That being said, I am a little confused that any discourse other than that assigned by the commentator is virtually forbidden. This is, of course, a private blog, and my failure to comply with its format is regrettable but has certainly been informative.

[If you can’t see the difference between private property and its prerogatives vs. government force — then you’re concept of liberty is extremely limited and certainly at odds with that of the American Founders, who were classical liberals. You were asked to familiarize yourself with the philosophy of the host, as this is a moderated forum devoted to principled discussion, not rants. There are plenty forums out there—neoconservative mainly—where you can post indiscriminate rants and rah-rahs, etc. Besides, if you read through the enormous archives of comments on this site, you will see that “muzzling” is minimal, especially of readers who bother to READ. The Posting Policy explicitly states that misrepresentations (borne of a refusal to read) will not be posted. Military men should know a thing or two about limits, rules and discipline.–IM]

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By: Roger Chaillet https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8505 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:06:58 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8505 Myron should have taken his argument to the next level.

It’s unpatriotic to criticize the (fill in the blank) military, president, elites, war, etc.

How many times has he heard this line in the last 9 years?

As for non-combatants, George Bush intentionally skirted his military obligation other than the brief times he spent flying jets.

It was more like “big toys for big boys” with Jorge Arbusto and his jets.

And speaking of patriotism, why no mention of Jorge celebrating Cinco de Mayo in the White House and “flying” the Mexican flag on the White House website?

Why does Mike Bassett ignore all of this?

Patriotism does not mean fealty to the elites.

It means love of country.

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8503 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 04:53:54 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8503 I wish to focus not on the sex/”equality”/pregnancy issue but another point that Mike Bassett implied with:

“Okay you military haters, you non-combatants, you who preach on you pedestals bathed in the blood of those who gave you the opportunity…”

(1) Our rights come from Nature/Nature’s God/God …. These rights belong to us and they do not “come” from government, the Bill of Rights, the Supreme Court, or the military.
(2) One might make the argument that resisting expansionist empires like the Nazis and Communists protected our liberties. However, it is harder to argue that intervening in Vietnam, Panama, Somalia, Haiti, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. had/has anything to do with guaranteeing freedom of speech or other liberties.
(3) Neither of the above two points prove or disprove whether most soldiers, sailors, Marines, and airmen are honorable people.

Sadly, the military, like most government employees, have been indoctrinated to believe that humankind would fold up if not for them. Without public schools, we would all be schnooks. Without Social Security, and Medicare, everyone would die at age 65. Without meat inspection, we would all be poisoned. Without the National Science Foundation, we would be living in caves – etc. etc.

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By: Roger Chaillet https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8502 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:50:47 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8502 Interesting.

One of Major Hasan’s victims was a pregnant Latina. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/fort_hood_shootings/Fort_Hood_shooting_victims.html

But what do you expect of the Pentagon?

They’ve now ramped up a gun-registration edict at Fort Hood. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6776025.html

I now realize the elites live in a bubble.

It’s known as inside the Beltway.

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By: M.O'Neal https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8501 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:53:07 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8501 Oops, I see now that the parenthetical comments I commented on belong to the host and not neccessarily to Mr Bassett. My mistake, although I still don’t appreciate the intent of the comments and I have to stand by my remarks.

[Which proves even more the need for participants, present company included, to become familiar with the host’s views, which comport with the ethics of private property. See comment above.–IM]

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By: M.O'Neal https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8500 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:43:13 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8500 I sort of agree with the beginning of Bassett’s remarks in general, although I don’t know why he sets up BAB readers as “those who ascribe to the notion of “Equal Pay For Equal Work,” or “Women Can Do Anything A Man Can Do” etc. so he can smugly “blame” them for anything in particular. Why does he assume that’s the audience here at all?

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By: Mike Bassett https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8492 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:13:07 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8492 About the current makeup of the Armed Forces: this gender crisis is all caused by 50 years of Women’s Lib and Social Justice. So for those who ascribe to the notion of “Equal Pay For Equal Work,” or “Women Can Do Anything A Man Can Do, then you have no one to blame for what’s going on in the military but yourselves. [See comment below, and do try reading the linked article, “Barack Against The Boys,” the Just-War, and Gender and feminism archives on this site.–IM]

Okay you military haters, you non-combatants, you who preach on you pedestals bathed in the blood of those who gave you the opportunity…

JUMP IN!!!

oh please.

[Passions aside, you clearly have not bothered to read some of the work of the host, a vague familiarity with which is generally required for coherent participation. A look at the BAB “Posting Policy” for length would also help.–IM]

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By: Gringo Malo https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8491 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:00:14 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8491 Well, the general didn’t tell them not to do the nasty. He just told them not to get knocked up. Science has invented a cure for the common person. 🙂

During World War II, it might have been cheaper to give women military pay for clerical duties because military pay was quite low. Under today’s pay scales, meant to attract volunteers, it would probably be cheaper to hire civilians for everything but combat arms. Now that we have no civilized enemies, it’s patently absurd to deploy women to combat zones, but the politically correct notion that men and women are interchangeable prevails.

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By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/no-more-making-whoopy-in-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-8488 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:12:07 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=18799#comment-8488 No more whoopie in the Military? What a pile of yak dung that idea is. It’s like throwing a stack of juicy pork chops into the swamp and telling the alligators they can’t take a bite. If there’s one thing the military is not short of it’s juicy pork chops.

General Macarthur said that a smart officer will not issue an order he can’t enforce.

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