Comments on: UPDATE III: On The Mosque Monsters https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/ by ilana mercer Thu, 15 Aug 2024 20:31:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12626 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:57:22 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12626 Amidst all this, I have forgotten to say, “Happy New Year” to Ilana, Myron, Pam, and all the Jewish people who contribute here.

Myron, I disagree with you on the point of the “bigger threat” to the USA from the old Soviet Union. Despite their number of nukes (and long-range delivery systems) the Soviets were not suicide-minded. I doubt whether the most strident Soviet dictator wanted to see Moscow nuked in retaliation for an attack on the west. The fact that we threw out Carter and elected Reagan in 1980 was perhaps a wake-up call for them. When the Soviet Empire was defeated, all those nukes went…where? Do we know? When a potential enemy does not value his own life, he is surely not going to value the lives of others. That’s why the present situation is so dangerous.

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By: Myron "Liberty Akbar" Pauli https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12616 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:17:33 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12616 1. Julia Gorin is mostly correct – EXCEPT that the 2 billion, 50,000 nuke Communist Empire in its heyday (with its Western leftist “intellectual” allies) was a bigger threat than a hoard of illiterate savages. Fred Reed’s latest cynical column notes that the “Christian World” inflicts much greater military damage on the “Islamic World” than the other way around (to no strategic purpose, of course).

2. Pam- the LP is mostly amateurish and Third Parties attract lots of nutcases.
However, anti-Semites also exist in mainstream political parties (examples: Sharpton and many in European parties). The Lew Rockwell site also has a few foaming Israel haters (including David Kramer who is Jewish).

3. Pam – America should support America, however, and not Israel. Israel should defend Israel (see Deuteronomy 15:6). That is a perfectly “libertarian” and Jewish stance.

4. Our political and military “leaders” are pathetic craven wimps bowing to Islam.

5. QUESTION – if Korans were attached to Israeli buses, would Jihadists then refuse to blow them up??? Given how Moslems enjoy killing fellow Moslems, I think the SENSITIVE practitioners of the RELIGION OF PEACE would gladly sacrifice a Koran or two in order to kill and maim Jewish children.

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By: Van Wijk https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12609 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:33:48 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12609 Would that we could burn them all.

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By: Jim https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12596 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:50:37 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12596 I see the pastor has done what I suggested in the previous comment.

Regardless of one’s view of the Iraq war, the Left’s situational ethics and inconsistent position is now naked. For almost 8 years the MSM published classified information and otherwise made statements that flamed and endangered soldier’s lives and made it more difficult to find murderous terrorists. But burning a Koran is unacceptable because it is ‘dangerous.’

Meanwhile, the uproar from the religion of peace over the Koran leads us to wonder just what proportion of Muslims around the world can be classified as ‘radical.’

It’s a strange world, and the MSM is no longer able to have a rational discussion. The pastor, whatever you think of him, unclothed the Progressive narrative.

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By: John McNeill https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12590 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:52:25 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12590 Ron Paul’s views reinforce my decision to move beyond not just the Ron Paul movement, but politics altogether, and see change through the culture, rather than through Washington, as the way to save Western Civilization. No amount of fighting for the Constitution is going to change this country. Washington DC is the product of a blighted society.

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By: Jim https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12578 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 09:15:21 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12578 I wish the pastor in Florida would stand up now and say, “I’ve made my point and there is no longer any need to burn the Koran. I just wanted to demonstrate to the world that I could drive half the Muslims in the world crazy.”

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By: Daniel https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12572 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 04:11:14 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12572 Conservative writer Mark Hackard has some timely observations on the Ground Zero mosque debate:

Americans who sense that something is inherently wrong with the situation have nowhere to turn within the framework of today’s cultural and political discourse. The clash over the mosque is being fought entirely under the strictures of liberal ideology — everything is subjected to the leveling, atomizing power of the egalitarian ideal. Despite the undeniable symbolism involved, as long as the liberal dynamic prevails, the Cordoba House affair will just be one of many distractions brought to you by Rupert Murdoch and his competitors. Here the long-employed strategy of divide-and-rule, also known as pluralism, guarantees that the managerial regime can implement its agenda with minimum fuss.

Read it all.

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By: Pam Maltzman https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12569 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:04:51 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12569 Incredibly, many libertarians whom I know personally have drunk the Kool-Aid and have come down on the side of the Muslims–and against Israel. I didn’t have the heart (or the guts) to ask them if they too wish to see Israelis driven into the sea. One of them even claims that all those people celebrating 9/11 in the streets were Israelis and not Muslims (according to some website). One of them is “sick and tired” of Jews “whining” about the Holocaust. One of them told me not to take it “personally” if I should read or hear of Muslims wanting to kill Jews (of which I am one).

A lot of libertarians don’t get that these issues might go far beyond “religious tolerance.” They don’t get it that if Muslims reach critical mass in this country (as they are doing in France and Sweden, for example), things aren’t going to be so nice anymore.

Yikes! I’m not a member of the Libertarian Party anymore, but I’m almost ready to shun some of the libertarians I’ve known over the years.

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By: My RON PAUL i https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12563 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:30:36 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12563 I come down on the side of property rights. Any form of liberty that is “conditional” on approval of politicians or “the people” is no liberty at all.

Simultaneously, we have the issue of those wanting to burn a Koran on 9/11. They have an absolute right to burn their own book on their own property. Freedom may offend other’s feelings but people live for themselves and NOT for others. You can build your Mosque and I can burn your Koran – freedom is freedom!

What’s galling about Moslems is their bully/crybaby mentality. They happily blow up Buddhas (did any Moslems object???); proudly murdering/expelling Christians, Jews, Hindus, and even Moslem dissenters/apostates. Then they simultaneously cry “foul” about their sensitivities burning a Koran or posting a Mohammed cartoon. People remember the celebrations 9/11/01 when the Palestinians behaved as if they’d just won the World Cup (their free speech!).

Arguably, most devout Moslems are not deserving or capable of appreciating liberty – which is why we should leave them to stew in their own cesspools of intolerance (in their own countries, not America!). On the other hand, I prefer not to compromise MY rights just to stick it to “THEM”.

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By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/on-the-mosque-monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-12560 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:31:19 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=27058#comment-12560 I doubt whether most Americans care what religion their neighbors practice, so long as it does not interfere with their own practices and laws. The “Islamophobia” label seems unjust in this case; as “fear of Islam” does not appear to be the issue. Rather, there is demonstrated evidence that wherever Muslims gain power in the west, calls for Shari’a follow, the latter philosophy being inimical to western liberties. The placement of a mosque at the Ground Zero location where “infidels” were cruelly immolated would be nothing if not an example of the power of Islam to change hearts and minds.

Libertarians need to be careful. If they wish to gain converts to their philosophy, they might start by recognizing (as Ilana has stated many times) that their philosophy is part and parcel of western tradition, and nowhere exists independent of it.

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