Comments on: One Of The Risikiest Things in America: Hiring Somebody https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20285 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:34:22 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20285 A more stable economy (e.g. less Federal Reserve meddling), a sound currency, and economic deregulation will do more for hiring than shifting tax burdens around. Until the government stops spending $ 4 Trillion, we will have to heist money from people to pay for it.

As for the FAIR tax – the income tax is insidious enough and applies merely to wage statements and bank/stock earning statements. The FAIR tax will tax every item one buys – and, undoubtebly, Congress will decide how to make the FAIR tax “fairer”. Will carrots be taxed the same as potato chips?? Will a “corporate car” be taxed the same as a “personal car” ??? – well, leave those decisions in the hands of Congress, lobbyists, and bureaucrats. This “FAIR TAX” is a golden opportunity to go from bad to worse.

And that is not getting into the “prebate” which will be a magnet for illegal aliens to come here while Americans purchase all their goods on the other side of the border!

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By: Dennis https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20284 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:30:33 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20284 Good Morning! Just a few notes re some of the Comments…

1. RE a FEDERAL SALES TAX: VATs are what Europeans generally use, also Canada with General and Provincial sales taxes. These are extra, i.e. Income Taxes are also applied. The FAIR TAX eliminates Income Taxes and many more taxes and applies at the end of the supply chain sale. Please read the book.

2 The Federal Government – Article 1, Sections 8 thru 10 – specify duties, impost, excise, etc taxes that the Feds may apply. In the Federal Code of Regulations, Title 19 addresses Imports, HTSUS – Harmonized Tariff System of the United States – details duties, fees, MPF, HMF, etc. In addition, there are numerous Country Specific TRADE AGREEMENTS to consider. But, will increasing duties lead to a SMOOT-HAWLEY environment???

3. A 10% Sales Tax, in my opinion, does not equal a 10% across the board Income Tax. It would be less since I do not know many who spend 100% of their income on taxable consumption items. Again, please read FAIR TAX.

4. Income Taxes – if in the aggregate appropriate more than 50% of wages, salaries, income – reduce a person to SLAVE STATUS. You end-up working to have money given to others without your consent.

5. Payment of Income Taxes is an affront, but I personally know someone who refused to pay them…eventually spent 2 years in prison. Choose your actions wisely.

I gladly accept any and all reductions involving taxation since those may lead to a better system, i.e. FAIR TAX, and since FedGov takes 80% of monies for most programs leaving just 20% for the intended beneficiaries, this may chop them down to size and scope and return authority to the States.

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By: Eric Zucker https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20283 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:43:48 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20283 I’m baffled by discussions of how we should change the income tax or replace it with something else. They seem to me to merely be arguments about what form of enslavement the authors prefer.

I believe that the income tax as applied to wages is immoral and therefore can’t be an obligation of any man. I say end it now and don’t replace it with anything. Making no other changes the Federal Government would still have well over one trillion dollars of general revenue per year—more than enough to cover constitutionally sanctioned activity.

Our system of government is supposed to be based on checks and balances. Surely the profligate popinjay that sits in the oval office has demonstrated that there aren’t enough checks at present. The additional check of limiting revenue is an idea whose time has come.

To tax a man’s wages is to tax his life. If we believe that a man owns his life, we must allow him to trade pieces of it (periods of work) for equal value (wages) without the government getting a piece of the action. Government may properly tax privileged activity (profits of government sponsored limited liability corporations, some business income after paying wages, mining on government land, etc.) but not rights. It may not legitimately tax the necessary exercise of your right of life. Sustaining your life through working for wages is an obvious necessity.

When government does tax your wages it is in effect taxing your labor and therefore your life. The founding document of the American Revolution says you have an unalienable right to life.

If you may properly be put in jail for failure to pay a tax on your life your right of life is not unalienable.

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By: Vanessa Lum https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20281 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:07:25 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20281 As usual, your commentary is a joy to read. Would that the ones we send to Congress even understand & grasp what Schiff is talking about, sigh.

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By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20280 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:50:34 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20280 I don’t like a sales tax piled on to other taxes. However a sales tax in place of other taxes is an interesting thought. That’s the only way we’ll ever get a large portion of the populace to pay taxes.

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By: Dennis https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20274 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:46:07 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20274 Oops! Last sentence s/b: “They also learn early on what is taken in TAXATION”.

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By: Dennis https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20273 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:31:42 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20273 Good Morning.

Please take note of the following:

1. http://mises.org/daily/5641/Its-Not-about-Consumption

2. http://www.boortz.com

3. If you truly wish to know how Byzantine it is to start a business in most cities and states, choose three different types and proceed as if you were starting each one. I had a really bizarre experience when I and my partners opened a Handicapper Commuter Van Service in Detroit, Michigan…try that for one of the types! As for other types, check with all the professionals with whom you must work and get estimates of what it will cost you just to setup. The various government entities will TELL you what Fees, Permits, Inspections, Records, etc. you will need…visit their offices.

http://WWW.BOORTZ.COM is there for FAIR TAX – some answers without reading the entire book – which is the best source.

Schiff sees the Big Picture and the Politicians and many of the “Intelligentsia” Commentators do not / do not wish to see it or speak of it.

Re Minimum Wages / Living Wages…they must be eliminated because they prevent youth from being employed by small businesses where most kids usually get their first jobs, learn how to work, learn what to do with their money, i.e. learn to make wise choices between Instant Gratification vs Delayed Gratification. They also earn early on what is taken in TAXATION.

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20272 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:25:29 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20272 Ok- I see the recommendations so far are good in a way. Unfortunately they are mere frosting on a heavy cake. Someone like the Grace Commission needs to step back and look at the country as a whole. We have virtually tons of laws that impede the ability of business to operate. We have taxes, tariffs, surcharges and taxes within taxes that need to be defined, exposed and eradicated. Plus we have an ‘out of control government that says we have to approve laws before they are written and micro-managers galore. This same commission has to hold the government up to the light- compare it to the US Constitution- and determine what size government we should be assessed. Since I hold common sense above all others, I know that this is just not going to happen. I do expect that we will get a national sales tax eventually- ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE. That is the American way and we have to be true to form.

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By: JP https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20271 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:01:20 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20271 @Myron I understand your position regarding introducing a sales tax, but I differ from you. As far as I can tell, the US taxes everyone’s income, from poor, right throught the middleclass and rich, right up to the wealthy. Eliminating income tax will leave all these groups with more money in their pockets, which will only be taken away again when they buy stuff.

A sales tax of, say 10%, would amount to the same thing as a flat income tax rate of 10% across the board. Granted, the more money you have, the higher the percentage you could save and avoid a sales tax. But I don’t think the rich still put money under the mattress. (2) Sales tax is just as anonymous as whatever systems your government currently uses to track spending patterns. (3) Government has always had ways of favouring certain spending over other spending.

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/one-of-the-risikiest-things-in-america-hiring-somebody/comment-page-1/#comment-20268 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:40:33 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42708#comment-20268 Most important thing is to cut SPENDING. Cutting taxes comes later. I disagree about a national sales tax for 3 reasons: (1) shifts too much burden to the poor and middle class who can ill afford it and (2) civil liberties issues (the government knowing all that you spend), (3) easy to abuse to favor some spending over other spending. Most of what he said is sound and it is hard to hire someone given all the hassles to shift jobs (look at Boeing) etc. There are many regulations, insurance mandates, etc. that are probably more onerous than the minimum wage (that is basically a limitation for the McDonalds level).

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