Comments on: Update II: Pope's Noble-Savage Catechism https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/ by ilana mercer Sun, 11 May 2025 16:48:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14155 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:41:53 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14155 To Barbara Grant: Excellent observation. When a person does something grear for God he does it in the spirit, not just by his own efforts. Note David, Soloman, Elijah, Peter and others. All the great ones who ultimately fell short reverted to their own strength without God’s help. Man’s strength is nothing but weakness and produces nothing of spiritual worth.

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By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14154 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:19:05 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14154 Regarding Martin Luther:

I believe that Luther was a man God used in a very powerful way, to bring the Bible to the masses in the vernacular. And I don’t think it was any accident that this was initially accomplished in the area we now call Germany, where Johann Gutenberg invented the printing press many years earlier.

However, I agree with Concha that Luther’s later writings are anti-Semitic. Again, my point is that God uses individuals in powerful ways, but it doesn’t make them great people for all time.

Same with Mel Gibson. I believe that God used him in a powerful way to produce “The Passion” which resulted in many worldwide coming to faith in Christ. Many months later, the dissolute drunk Gibson was arrested, spewing anti-Semitic remarks. Why?

Because we are all sinners. No one person should be lifted up: only God should be. That is precisely why I am in complete disagreement with the Catholic precept that elevates the pontiff beyond others. All Christian believers should open their Bibles and read them.

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By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14153 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:59:33 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14153 I’m wondering also why the Pope would make the statements he has regarding Africa and the West, as he surely knows he is listened to round the world. Western civilization is being bashed the world over, and now he is piling on. Might he be setting the “spiritual groundwork” that others can use to argue for global “redistribution of wealth”? Time, perhaps, will tell.

I don’t trust this guy.

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By: EN https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14152 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:03:23 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14152 The Church, and its “exploitations”, did more for Africa than concerned Westerners like Bono will ever do. The Church of Rome built a social system that was funded with “exploitation”. This raised the level of African society wherever it was tried. When the Church and Western governments ended their “exploitation”, which had more to do with the colonizers losing their asses than philanthropy, the Dark Continent began to slide back into what it always was. A hell of a lot more “exploitation” is needed if Africa is to prosper.

Many appear to believe that setting up a government-based social and legal system, with taxes and a heavy handed bureaucracy, will solve Africa’s problems. This is the preferred method of the US government. Send a thirty-year-old “expert” on trade, who’s never had a real job in his life, to bring capitalism to Russia, the Balkans, Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti, and too many others to name. The zero success rates have left our government unfazed, or even remotely reflective.

All bow to the virtues of “exploitation” which is the only true path to prosperity, and its handmaiden, enlightenment.

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By: concha https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14151 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:27:10 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14151 Dear Martin Barrow,
I must respectfully disagree with your portrayal of Luther. Most historians agree that he was a flagrant anti-semite and had inflamed old hostilities against Jews and other “ethnics.” Yes, the Catholic church was corrupt, but remember, many innocent Catholics were tortured and murdered by protestants–there is blood on all hands.
He did some good things, but he is no hero to me.

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By: concha https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14150 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 15:20:36 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14150 Thanks Ilana for another great essay.
And regarding African AIDS, there is absolutely no excuse for anyone to continue a promiscuious lifestyles given the knowledge that they have. I know that in America, AIDS is the #1 killer of African-Americans, and they too, like Africans, are in denial and refuse to change their lifestyle.
Or perhaps, they have a very fatalistic view of life and feel helpless about their futures. Either way, we will all pay for this and no, it’s not fair to those who practice self-discipline and restraint.
Bless this wonderful pope for speaking out against human trafficking and exploitation. I think he has a lot more to say, just give him some time.

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By: james huggins https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14149 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 12:09:35 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14149 To Alex: At least they aren’t breaking people on the rack and burning them at the stake any more. As far as we know..

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By: Martin Berrow https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14148 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:56:53 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14148 In regards to the Pope & the Catholic church, one need’s to look no further than the teachings of Martin Luther.

Martin Luther was formerly a Augustinian Monk & Catholic priest.

Martin Luther was one of the GREAT reformers. He found out that being born again of God required “justifcation by faith alone, and it was not by works. If the Bible bashes the Catholic church, and it does, everything should be done to expose its glaring false doctrine. Martin Berrow……..

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By: Dan Maguire https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14147 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:20:00 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14147 Thomas Sowell, in ripping apart the anti-Wal Mart crowd, writes the following in an essay called “Hollywood Economics”:

“Apparently Wal Mart doesn’t pay its employees as much as some third parties would like to see them paid. But clearly Wal Mart isn’t paying them any less than what their labor is worth to other employers, otherwise they probably wouldn’t be working at Wal Mart. Moreover, third parties who wax indignant are paying them nothing.”

I love that last zinger!

He goes on to point out that the relevant comparison in examing wages in the third world is not how third world wages stack up against American wages. The relevant comparison is between the wages paid by the “horrible, exploitive” corporations versus the wages the citizens could otherwise earn.

But I forgot…if not for the sins of Western man, all other cultures would be back in the Garden, living in harmony with nature, and enjoying Grateful Dead concerts. My bad.

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By: Alex https://barelyablog.com/pope%e2%80%99s-nobel-savage-catechism-2/comment-page-1/#comment-14146 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:53:35 +0000 http://blog.ilanamercer.com/?p=434#comment-14146 Now tell me what you really think about the Catholic Church, Mr. Huggins.

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