Comments on: UPDATED: Saint Mandela & The Gaza Amity Armada

By: Vrye Denker

Vrye Denker — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 07:25:15 +0000

Hugo Schmidt, to put it at its most bald, Terre'blanche wasn’t in the habit of proudly waving a communist salute. Nor was he in the habit of planting bombs near women and children.

By: Ray

Ray — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:00:21 +0000

Memo to Erudites:

Well… here’s an unexpected bit of whimsy to lighten a very dark event. Some people with very Jewish sounding names and a superb sense of humor. There’s something heroic about this kind of good-natured humor in the face of such great evil…

A parody of “We Are The World” entitled “We Con The World.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOGG_osOoVg

Can’t WAIT ’til your new book comes out Ilana! Do a book signing in California somewhere… I’ll get there one way or the other.

Keep up the great work dear…

By: Hugo Schmidt

Hugo Schmidt — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:41:48 +0000

Van Wijk, to put it at its most bald, Mandela wasn't in the habit of proudly flying a Nazi-style flag.

By: Van Wijk

Van Wijk — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 12:02:33 +0000

I have difficulty seeing Mandela as anything but a terrorist. Perhaps Mr. Schmidt can educate me as to Mandela’s “moral value” and superiority to Eugene Terreblanche.

And let us be very careful in attributing to the “legacy of apartheid” that savagery which has plagued the African continent since time immemorial.

By: Wolf

Wolf — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 03:13:46 +0000

Beck lauds Truman as a 'bible fearing man'...what a joke. A genocidal maniac who ordered the murder of 200,000 Japanese civilians....Yes Harry T., Jesus died for them also....Beck discredits himself.

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:52:56 +0000

Barbara – Buchanan has always had an anti-Israel bias but he comes close to an interesting point. The US helped out Germany (and Japan) after World War II AFTER THEY STOPPED FIGHTING US AND SURRENDERED!!!! Until then, America was annihilating their cities – civilians and military. I doubt many of us would want to be a Palestinian living in Gaza – yet, they have preferred this self-sacrificial slummy “refugee camp” existence and perpetual Jihad against Israel to living in peace. Keep in mind that Israel settled millions of Jewish refugees from Yemen, Iraq, Iran, and Algeria and built a modern state. But, as usual, Buchanan sees what he wishes to see.

(2) Apparently, one of the triggers of Israel’s response is not only were they beating the Israelis but trying to kidnap Israeli prisoners (like Cpl. Shalit) as hostages.

(3) In my cynicism, I am thinking that perhaps Israel should use captured Somalia pirates to board the next round of Rachel Corrie Love-Boats and let them keep anything they get as long as they take it all back to Mogadishu.

(4) Also on Ilana’s WND site is an excellent article worth reading by Larry Klayman:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId… – on
“Memorial Day”.

By: Barbara Grant

Barbara Grant — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:10:58 +0000

Ilana, please feel free to delete this post as non-germane to the excellent commentary you posted relating Mandela to the “Gaza Amity Armada,” but I was troubled by Pat Buchanan’s commentary today on the flotilla incident. Buchanan stated that “President Obama should end his and his country’s shameful silence over the inhumane blockade of Gaza that is denying 1.5 million beleaguered people the basic necessities of a decent life.” http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=162057, adding that it is time “to start acting like America again.” (same reference.)
Have you not pointed out, through your earlier posts and links on this incident, that Palestinians residing in Gaza receive the basics necessary for daily life? And that Gazans do, in fact, receive copious amounts of aid toward this objective from the nation of Israel?
I think you have. Palestinians in Gaza either receive basic necessities, or they do not. The proposition that they do should be easy to prove, or to negate. As to “acting like America again,” I’d hope that our leadership would do exactly that: Use standards of justice and fairness to assess any given situation, rather than copping to world opinion (as America’s recent condemnation of Israeli actions in re: the so-called “peace-boat” incident would seem to indicate.)

By: Hugo Schmidt

Hugo Schmidt — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:37:12 +0000

Well, first off, here’s an article by the BBC that may interest you:

‘Some things were better under apartheid’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8711089.stm

Pay careful attention to the bit about houses toward the end.

Now I’m from SA as well, and it breaks my heart to see what has happened to the promise of those early years. But it does not negate Mandela’s personal and moral achievement. And intellectual, I might add; I’ve seen the gravel pit where he & his comrades earned their degrees, and its a salutatory lesson for those of us earning our degrees under much easier circumstances. I’d also add that he was 81 when he left office, and he is under no obligation to further martyr himself in those years that remain to him.

Human beings are what they are; Churchill (to take another example) was a drink sodden Imperialist who ended up making a deal with Stalin literally on the back of an envelope. Doesn’t change the heroism of his record. Nor can the slow destruction wrought by the ANC negate the fact of Mandela’s moral value, which is certainly more admirable than that of, say, Eugene Terreblanche.

By: eric

eric — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:23:08 +0000

Excellent! South African media’s pro-Islamic jihad bias is sickening.

By: John McNeill

John McNeill — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:22:19 +0000

Arno, it is good to see that you have the wisdom to understand how the problems facing the Afrikaners are in many ways self-inflicted, but know that your people are not alone in that. We Americans have also made a lot of mistakes, such as hiring illegal aliens and supporting the businesses that employ them. Like your people, we also became blinded by our riches and power and lost focus of what really matters. Hopefully both of our peoples will get up on our feet and start over; the statue of the Afrikaner boy rolling his sleeves up in Orania is very inspirational.

I also have a question about Mandela directed towards the general BAB audience. During his presidency he seemed to have made conciliatory gestures towards Afrikaners, like supporting the Springbok team, visiting Orania, making peace with many Apartheid era politicians, and showing respect towards Boer heroes from the Anglo-Boer war. Were these genuine, or was it a cynical ploy to settle down the Afrikaners and prevent an uprising?