Comments on: Update III: Swine Flu Part II: Pandemic Threat Raised

By: Roger Chaillet

Roger Chaillet — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:34:51 +0000

Actually the government will quarantine travelers.

Remember this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_tuberculosis_scare

Of course he is a citizen, and willingly informed Uncle Sam of what had happened to him.

The late Sam Francis called it correctly. He termed it “anarcho-tyranny.” http://www.vdare.com/francis/muzzle.htm

The southern border remains open because the elites want it this way.

How else can you create a hemispheric version of the European Union?

Put it to a vote?

By: Roy Bleckert

Roy Bleckert — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:31:06 +0000

Our federal government defending our border lol

By: Myron Pauli (on the road)

Myron Pauli (on the road) — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:18:39 +0000

Ilana: On my first travel in 3 years, I find that one “plus” of being on the road is to ignore media-amplified hysteria like the Swine Flu (and a few years ago, it was Mad Cow). Mencken had a great quote about government assuming powers to fight hogoblins(sp?), most of them made-up. But soon I’ll be back looking at the day-by-day crises. Speaking of DHS, today was a speaker (at my conference) explaining how the DHS wasted $10,000,000 on a nonsensical idea that I wrote up within 5 minutes of hearing it 3 years ago – on why it was nonsense (but they insisted on funding the “research” anyway!). Things might be WORSE if the Homeland Security folks got involved “solving” Swine Flu!

By: Barbara Grant

Barbara Grant — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:37:48 +0000

Language is very important, and I think it must continue to be stressed (as Ilana does above, as does Vox Day) that what is going on in the southern border region is mass _migration_, not _immigration_. This is true regardless of whether or not disease is involved. “Immigration” conjures up images in many people’s minds of a more-or-less orderly procedure like Ellis Island. That term should be universally abandoned in any further discussion of the border.

By: Bob Schaefer

Bob Schaefer — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:15:20 +0000

“My keyboard has recently been replaced since vigorous cleaning had casued the letters to fade. I’ve been barred from our very old TV remote, after Sean fixed it.”

Typical female paranoia. My wife won’t eat two-day old refrigerated leftovers. I say if it’s not blue, eat it.

By: Scherie G.

Scherie G. — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:54:06 +0000

Everyone should keep in mind that we are entering May sweeps. So we will have every media outlet claiming this to be the next bubonic plague. I find it odd that no fuss is made about recurring outbreaks of measles and mumps. Illnesses that were eradicated through inoculation.

But silly me, since we don’t have an Ellis Island type process, many children and adults enter the country not ever seeing a doctor, let alone getting a shot. And we can’t forget the anti-science element in our population who will not vaccinate their children.

I’m not worried about this flu. Just wash your hands and keep your households clean.

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:36:42 +0000

While other nations were implementing tests at the incoming airports, the US Center for Disease Control director was screaming about how bad it was going to get, downplaying the fact that the US cases were mild, ignored the airports and ordered tons of vaccine. I don’t claim to be very smart, but even I know that the way to stop the flu is with disinfectant. Clean hands are safer than vaccine filled blood vessels. Colds and flu are transmitted primarily by hand contact. Bleach water for home and office and incoming airplane cleaning. Disinfectant wipes for doorknobs, exercise equipment in gyms, and everyday use will stop the flu worldwide, even in Mexico. How come the government doctors, ie Center for Disease Control are not making that recommendation to the citizens, or did I miss it?

By: John Danforth

John Danforth — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:01:25 +0000

First, you can’t mass – test travelers for swine flu. [Who’s talking about that?] You have to get a sample of sputum and grow it in a culture, then analyze it, all of which takes several days. The rapid tests that could be used only test for type A or B (not swine or avian), and miss up to 30% of infections. Not to mention false positives. They only have to let one case through, and it will spread.

The problem is that people shed the virus before they are symptomatic, and transmission is very easy. In this case, it’s already been spread. The toothpaste is out of the tube and it can’t be put in.

Like the regular flu, most people that live in decent conditions will have mild symptoms, recover, and be immune to that strain forever after. People who live in bad conditions with poor nutrition and no access to good hospitals in case they come down with pneumonia are at higher risk. We lose 30,000 people in the U.S. to flu every year as it is, mostly due to pneumonia.

If you retreated into a bubble, you could prevent exposure to it. Otherwise, even if you take every precaution and avoid exposure now, you will then be vulnerable when the next, mutated wave comes around.

Central planners are generally idiots. They are showing their idiocy this time around, too. Let them declare their emergencies, then get a laugh at how ineffectual they are.

Luckily for us, nature’s biological weapons laboratory only generates a mutation that is especially deadly and especially contagious at the same time once in a long while. It has been longer than usual since the last one. But we are helpless to avoid the contagious ones, and they don’t respect borders nor authority. Groups that are rarely exposed are the ones that are most vulnerable; look what happened to native Americans when explorers brought their germs.