Comments on: Update VI: Ted’s Dead (Sacred Cow Syndrome Strikes) https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Barbara Grant https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6884 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:26:02 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6884 I have problems with this article:

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Kennedy-wanted-to-go-to-heaven-says-priest-who-stayed-at-Kennedys-bedside.html?page=2

in which the cleric who attended Kennedy at his death makes such a point of crowing over the late Senator’s strong faith, and how it drove him to do “good” for others. I think if Kennedy’s faith had been that strong, he would have (1) Reported the Chappaquiddick situation to authorities _ASAP_, which he did not do; and (2) Resigned from the Senate afterward, seeking to do good in a venue through which he would get no publicity nor public acclaim.

I was also struck by the priest’s comments on how “peaceful” the Kennedy death scene was. Far different from the situation in which one’s lungs fill up with water and the struggle for every breath, with all its attendant shock and horror.

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By: Mark Humphrey https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6880 Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:33:33 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6880 I don’t like Ted Kennedy’s politics any more than you do. And I’m not here to vouch for Kennedy’s characeter; he had some serious moral faults.

Still, I recoil from routine right-wing slandering of Kennedy over the death of Mary Jo Kopechne “whom he left to drown”. He said he dove several times to try to extract her from the submerged oldsmobile. Does evidence exist to rebut his story? Presumeably, he was drunk. Did this hinder his physcial efforts at rescue?

Kennedy said he left the scene only after he was sure she was dead. Maybe she was still alive when he left the scene; I don’t know. But did he know this? I doubt it. What would motivate him to abandon her?

Kennedy cheated on his wife and neglected his responsibilities by driving drunk. He caused a tragic accident that cost Miss Kopechne her life. He tried to cover up details of the accident, which was wrong and pathetic.

This is bad behavior. But accusing him of “leaving a young woman to drown” strikes me as mischaracterization.

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By: Bob Schaefer https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6873 Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:40:52 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6873 It seems Mr. Tom Roeser has struck upon the definitive Kennedy epitaph: “Dumb as dogshit.”

http://www.tomroeser.com/blogview.asp?blogID=25043

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By: steph https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6872 Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:43:01 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6872 I’m a little confused. As a libertarian, wouldn’t it be important to allow any immigrant in the US (with no criminal record)? Let the free market decide who can make it here. Give us your tired, your poor, etc etc…

[It is recommended in the “Posting Policy” that you acquaint yourself with your host’s views, to which this forum, among other things, is devoted to debating. The blog directory and Articles Archive are easily accessibly. You can’t debate views you don’t know.–IM]

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6866 Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:54:12 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6866 There’s a joke I heard in church once. A woman was known for always having something good to say about everyone. Once she was asked if she could say anything good about Satan. Her answer- “Well, he is always on the job.” Ted qualify’s for that comment. He was tireless alright. In the early seventies, we made an agreement with South Viet Nam, we were leaving but we promised to keep up the ammunition and spare parts, plus some financing. As soon as our troops left, Ted striped the apportion of funding, leaving the South without support. We lost 58,000 lives in our commitment to that nation, only to have it end with a shameful betrayal of our word.

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6865 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:48:15 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6865 Some lessons to learn from the career of Senator Ted:

The man stood AGAINST limited government and most of what I stand for and vice versa but:

( 1 ) Unlike many “principled” Libertarian/Conservative/Anarchists – he was more interested in making progress TOWARDS his goals rather than just bitching about some endgame Utopia. Sometimes “3 yards and a cloud of dust” will get to the endzone. It is a lesson for those who would rather lose than ever compromise strategically towards a goal.

( 2 ) By focusing on goals, he could be charitable towards “the other side” (not always – see his rhetoric on Bork) – rather than just gratuitously whip up vitriol for no reason. He
made enemies more by his “effectiveness” (e.g. destruction) rather than by trying to be a shock-jock, Michael Savage / Ann Coulter style.

( 3 ) He was tenacious and if he spent 48 years in the Senate doggedly making this country more socialistic, he did not give up. Persistency and patience is often lacking in those who would fight to get us OUT of the socialistic mess.

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By: Jamie https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6863 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:11:39 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6863 If there was one state in this nation I would rip away like a nasty boil it would be MA. Their politicians have wreaked so much havoc and wielded such disproportionate power it’s sickening.

We all know what Barney Frank has done of late. Back in the in the 70’s and 80’s Tip O’Neill and his buddy Teddy managed to wring unbelievable amounts of pork from Washington, the crown jewel being America’s gift to Boston – The Big Dig. Forgive me if I don’t require a tissue today.

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By: Gringo Malo https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6861 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:16:24 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6861 OK, I’ve searched for a link saying that Kopechne was pregnant, and have found no substantiation on the web. I admit that I’m disposed to believe anything negative about the evil Communist clan that goes by the name of Kennedy. Perhaps I’ve been the victim of a conspiracy theory. Perhaps I was confused: Ted’s wife was pregnant at the time. Then again, perhaps Kopechne’s pregnancy has gone down the memory hole.

We do know that Teddy hid out long enough to avoid a blood test for intoxication. Even Time Magazine, almost as far to the left of Karl Marx as the Kennedys, has cited inconsistencies in Teddy’s story about the accident. That such a worm was allowed to sit in the Senate for more than forty years after the Chappaquiddick incident says nothing good about our country.

By the way, the Detroit Free Press says that Mary Jo Kopechne is the top search item on Google today. Apparently, several thousand other people have been looking for details of her death. That is Ted Kennedy’s legacy.

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By: ~greenhell~ https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6860 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:38:40 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6860 There were few politicians I hated more than Ted Kennedy. In fact, I understood more about the political world than I wanted to when he first announced he had cancer. Soon after that Bush remarked, “We join our fellow Americans in praying for his full recovery.” http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080520/NEWS/80520003. Do not tell me who to pray for. If I prayed, it would be for him to realize that his vanity and his glory-seeking harmed so many. I would’ve prayed for him to start making decisions in favor of the freedom of American citizens. People get cancer, people I know and love get cancer, and yet the politicians expect that we drop everything and pray for them like they are our lords. It sickened me to realize that. When I die I hope people remember me for who I actually was – saint or sinner.

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By: M. B. Moon https://barelyablog.com/teds-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6859 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:48:51 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=13316#comment-6859 Let’s not blame “liberals” too much. Socialism in the US came after the Great Depression when the unemployment rate was 25%. The GD was successfully blamed on capitalism while now even Bernanke admits the Fed was to blame (for the wrong reasons, though).

The greedy rich went to the Federal Government to back up their cartel with government violence. Why do so many wish to be wealthy when enough never seems to be enough for those who worship money?

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