Comments on: Updated: The Bow

By: robert

robert — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:13:38 +0000

“With our economy heading in the direction that the statists are taking us, Obama may soon be out with dark shades and a cane and a tin cup and bowing for a few valuable gold and silver coins.”

Myron,
Thank God for your humor during these troubled time. I check the blog several times a day for your great one liners –you have been on a roll of late. Keep it up I enjoy your posts very much.

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:59:33 +0000

With our economy heading in the direction that the statists are taking us, Obama may soon be out with dark shades and a cane and a tin cup and bowing for a few valuable gold and silver coins. That would be more appropriate symbolism.

By: JP Strauss

JP Strauss — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:29:51 +0000

I am of the opinion that the western world is being run by 16 year old girls.

By: Madas Counter

Madas Counter — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:20:40 +0000

I’m glad that you can pretend as if you live in the 19th century. As a somewhat of a traditionalist myself, I sympathize, but you can’t possibly tell me that the president doesn’t represent you. You may not acknowledge that he does, but, if he screws up and the world comes-a-calling everyone, including yourself, is going to fall under that collectivist “American” title and face mob justice.

By: Barbara Grant

Barbara Grant — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:39:18 +0000

I believe part of the reason this “bow” is an issue is because we no longer hold first place in the international arena; therefore appearances and protocol become all important. If neocons like Ingraham and others really believe we are still Number One, why do they get upset over a gesture of courtesy?

I think something has happened recently that has not happened in all my days: We’ve passed our zenith, and are now on the downhill slope.

By: Flannel Avenger

Flannel Avenger — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:20:31 +0000

Re: Anger over the bowing…

It is an American cultural issue. Americans are hard wired to go ballistic whenever somebody who has any government authority appears to bow to royalty.

What we need to do is rather than point out articles about “Miss Manners” (as every news story I’ve read seems to do) is to try to remind the sheep why Americans have such a distaste for it – and maybe actually get them to read The Declaration of Independence.

[The “sheep” should be reminded what liberty means, not what it has been replaced with and mistaken for; empty gestures.]

By: Lisa Krempasky

Lisa Krempasky — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:42:00 +0000

Very astute economic question I have been asking myself for years. People do not substantially overpay for like items. There are other tangible or intangible factors at play. We may not like the factors, but they exist and have economic value. The way to equal pay is not to force our way into the men’s locker room, but to build our own locker room. Being what you are not only leads to greater perceptions of inequity.

By: DrMagnolias

DrMagnolias — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 11:02:31 +0000

Respectfully, I did read and comprehend the post; I simply disagree with the critique of the symbolism.

By: DrMagnolias

DrMagnolias — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:25:34 +0000

The issue of President Obama’s bow is not only one of protocol, but of symbolism. The bow/curtsy is a sign of subservience; we bow to God, or whatever we worship (debutantes curtsy to Society). No American, whether a private citizen or a government official, has any business bowing or curtsying as if he were a subject or is in some way subservient. The difference between Presidents Bush and Obama is that hand-holding carries with it a different symbolism. Hand-holding is a sign of friendship (and President Bush’s hand-holding with the Saudi Prince is certainly fair game for that reason), not a sign of subservience, which is what President Obama’s bow was.

[You clearly did not read the post written, in which the folly of this “symbolism-cum-collectivism was addressed at length. You simply reassert what was critiqued.]

By: Doghouse

Doghouse — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 06:09:39 +0000

I too think that much too big of a deal is being made over this. (At least he didn’t prostrate himself and kiss the guy’s feet.) He didn’t show disrespect or a lack of refinement, just the usual ignorance, which is actually an improvement.

I don’t expect The Amateur to know protocol or…well, much of anything, really.

I would rather have him bowing at Middle Eastern despots than trying to stimulate me to the poor house.

But, alas, even while he’s gone we’ve got the numbskulls in DC trying to institute mandatory dole participation.