Comments on: Update II: The Dilemma Of The Dhimmi

By: Van Wijk

Van Wijk — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:40:04 +0000

Spot-on analysis of Hannan. Another one bites the dust.

Perhaps when the immigrant thug comes to rob him, he can make an economic argument, or perhaps appeal to the universal and color-blind British values that he and the thug share. Eloquent man that he is, I bet he’d even get a full sentence out before the truncheon came down.

By: Nebojsa

Nebojsa — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:58:44 +0000

Let’s not label people so hastily. Hannan is a Tory, and European politics are a fair bit different from American. Maybe he subscribes to the notion of a “proposition nation” but that makes him a starry-eyed idealist who still believes in what this country could have and should have been, as opposed to what it actually is. And I’ve never seen any politician dressed down the way he destroyed Gordon Brown in the European Parliament. So if he’s a bit soft on immigration, he sounds like a rational fellow, and can perhaps be persuaded otherwise. There’s no cure for the evil and the stupid that dominate the political system in which Hannan is a notable exception.

By: H. Horse

H. Horse — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:00:49 +0000

Basing a nation on values and propositions is a practical nihilism.

By: Barbara Grant

Barbara Grant — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:18:02 +0000

Wow, is he wrong on history! I’ve been studying WWI (“The Great War,” as the British call it) and it is true, young men from countries such as Australia and New Zealand joined up in droves to fight for Britain, but _not for the reason Hannan gives_, i.e. “values” or shared ideology. They joined up, according to my reading, because even though they were nationals of Commonwealth countries rather than the U. K., they still considered themselves “British,” long before the notion of “multiculturalism” had entered the English mind. Aussies and Kiwis of Irish descent shared cultural commonality with their British-derived countrymen, and volunteered as well. To paint a (relatively) modern European conflict in the tones of “shared values” and propositional nationhood does injustice to history, and to the men who gave their lives for Britain.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:18:38 +0000

Many of the things Hannan has to say are refreshing coming from a European politician. But I too have problems with his attitude towards unfettered third world immigration. It is amazing to me he can hold this position when so many European cities that were once completely safe, day or night, now are full of no-go areas. Is this coincidence, or does unchecked immigration have something to do with it?

This video pretty much confirms Ilana’s analysis of Hannan as a neocon. Pay close attention to what Hannan says at the 1:12 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scXWYPp4DC4

[Thank you for supplementing with more evidence.]

By: M. B. Moon

M. B. Moon — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:41:24 +0000

“Millions of potentially dangerous Muslims run loose in Europe and America.” Gringo Malo (Bad Gringo?)

Perhaps Europe and America should consider why they have low birth rates and need foreign labor?

Could the need for two family incomes have anything to do with it?

By: Gringo Malo

Gringo Malo — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:15:30 +0000

Pardon me, ma’am, but what’s the point of all this? Does anyone really care what one Muslim does to another? If so, why? Millions of potentially dangerous Muslims run loose in Europe and America. This is a much more serious problem than child marriage in the sandbox, and protesting to the Saudis does nothing to address it.

By: JP Strauss

JP Strauss — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:01:17 +0000

Sorry, I meant to address Steve.

By: JP Strauss

JP Strauss — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:58:48 +0000

Jamie, you cannot try an Arab in his homeland based on Western Laws. This is but a red herring. What you should be focusing on is the theocracy that makes such laws.

By: Jamie

Jamie — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 06:42:58 +0000

Poor girl. May she be a widow soon.