Comments on: Update II: The Din For Democracy https://barelyablog.com/the-din-for-democracy/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/the-din-for-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-6281 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:25:31 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=10793#comment-6281 Madison: “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.”
233 years ago this Saturday, an enlightened Congress tried to create a unified set of 13 sovereign republics whose purpose was to “secure our rights” for a largely moral people capable of self-government with some minimal government to restrain the rapists, thieves, and other non-angels. Now we have a DEMOCRACY where groups of competing statists – racial groups, agribusiness lobbyists, trade associations etc. – compete to tyrannize and plunder the sheep while pandering for their “votes”. Sadly, the Obamas and Bushes are not angels but we have shed any real controls on these popularly-elected Global Emperors. The “dead white males” who fought to free us from the tyranny of a King and his corrupt East India Company and a foreign policy of “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations — entangling alliances with none.” would be appalled by our Messiah, the governmental-assisted mercantilist “private sector”, and our micromanaged World Government. What are we celebrating Saturday other than a faint memory of a country gone astray and choking to death on its own DEMOCRACY?

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By: Wladimir Kraus https://barelyablog.com/the-din-for-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-6280 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:35:52 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=10793#comment-6280 limiting immigration may well be a viable policy option, but only in the short-run. The erosion of Western values, everywhere, has been largely accomplished without the aid from without.

Mass immigration will only accelerate the decline, no doubt about that. The utterly disgusting spectacle of once proud peoples castrated by political correctness is probably by far the more powerful contributing factor than the sheer masses of illiterate, unorganized, and destitute immigrants.

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By: Bob Schaefer https://barelyablog.com/the-din-for-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-6276 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:26:13 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=10793#comment-6276 The “Din for Democracy” is rising in Honduras as well.

The cream of the world’s supreme leaders, Barack Obama, said: “President Zelaya was democratically elected, he had not yet completed his term. We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the President of Honduras, the democratically elected president there.”

Never mind that this was the strangest “coup” in human history, the military having been ordered to arrest Zelaya by the Honduran Supreme Court and the Honduran Attorney General.

Immediately after the “coup” the rightful, i.e., constitutional successor to the presidency, assumed power and the Honduran congress affirmed that Zelaya’s ouster had been proper.

Apparently Zelaya had attempted to conduct an unauthorized and unconstitutional referendum to amend the Honduran constitution, which forbids the President from succeeding himself. (In a magnanimous gesture of goodwill, Hugo Chavez had printed up the ballots.)

Despite his stance against “meddling” in the affairs of sovereign nations during the Iran uprising, Obama saw fit to meddle in Honduran affairs.

According to the Washington Post, “U.S. officials had tried ahead of time to avert the coup, warning the Honduran military and politicians against suspending democratic order.”

Not to worry. The whole mess is likely to be settled by a US/UN mandated super-democratic election, supervised by that guru of democracy, Jimmy Carter.

Democratically elected supreme leaders are forever.

Amending a constitution by fiat? That’s change we can believe in.

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By: JP Strauss https://barelyablog.com/the-din-for-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-6275 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:19:36 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=10793#comment-6275 At least we’ve got despotism to look forward to. Oh, wait.

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By: Wladimir Kraus https://barelyablog.com/the-din-for-democracy/comment-page-1/#comment-6274 Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:43:16 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=10793#comment-6274 Ilana,

Here in Europe, I share your concern about immigration and dangers to liberty in the numerous cracks within the institutional framework of political democracy. But neither immigration nor democracy is the fundamental problem to be solved by restrictions or total abandonment.

The West is unconscious of its values and ideas and it loses them by the same process of unconscious stupor and resignation. Its active enemies on the left are intellectually decimated and in any case do not have a vision to offer. Everything distinctly Western is vanishing from school and university curricula, popular culture, minds and hearts. This development shows that those values and ideas were never, in fact, held firmly and consciously, even by European Americans.

Unlike its enemies on the left and religious movements, the classical liberals have always lacked the visible, mass expressions of pride for Western values and achievements. Stop apologizing, be consciously proud of distinctly Western achievements, organize an active pro-Western (capitalist) propaganda in form of exhibitions, marches, parades, mass demonstrations, public readings, active university groups, even youth camps that would explain and extol the essence and achievements of the West.

Do not compromise with open enemies and alleged friends in any way, especially on the questions of faith, reason, and science.

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