Comments on: UPDATE III: The Fogel Family, RIP (Tiny Tamar Speaks)

By: John McNeill

John McNeill — Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:50:55 +0000

Robert Glisson is right about the distortion of Christian forgiveness. True Christian forgiveness is pair with contrition on the part of the sinner; Christians aren’t expected to just blanket forgive evil-doers who show no remorse. The terrorists (be they Palestinians or Immigrants) have shown no acts of contrition, and so there is nothing to forgive.

By: Graham Strouse

Graham Strouse — Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:43:56 +0000

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the Palestinians are (mostly) refugees from the old Ottoman Empire & that Israel is pretty much the only country in the region that has been willing to take them in. Shouldn’t Jordan & Egypt be taking some responsibility for the refugee crisis instead of just keeping their collective traps shut & letting Israel take the heat?

By: mike

mike — Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:04:13 +0000

For all you folks ranting about Palestinian terrorists, the prime suspect so far in this murder is a Thai immigrant worker. Not that I have any love for the former, but you should do your homework. [Provide a link, please.]

By: Sioux

Sioux — Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:30:41 +0000

I am a Christian who believes in the 10 commandments. That heinous murderers can live their lives out rather than receive the punishment they so richly deserve is an abomination. Ilana, you lived in Israel. How many people have been executed there in the last 20 years? How many muslim terrorists? Here in the US, we just call them crazy and lock them away. I just don't want to get like those old ladies in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the ones who really got into stoning. [Israel does not have the death penalty. So, the answer to your question: 0.]

By: robert

robert — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:30:54 +0000

Thanks for the reply, Mr Glisson. I always thought Beck was a Mormon which is a rather strange sect of the Christian tradition. I don’t purport to know what Jews teach in regards to justice and am always leary of those Jews who want to teach me my Catholic Faith, but the ideas of Justice as outlined above by Mrs. Mercer are conistent with my own.

By: Mike Marks

Mike Marks — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:01:27 +0000

As I read the comments of Rabbi Yehuda Ben-Yishai I do not hear words of forgiveness either. I am a Christian, the born-again kind. I see his statement more as a statement of his faith even though it is being severly tested. He has asked the fundamental question: “…I believe in the country, in our strength and in the strength of the army, and I ask how did this strength not save our children?…”

What he is showing is a tremendous amount of grace and dignity under horrific circumstances. His faith is being tested but he has not given up on it. The principles he believes and teaches require that justice must be served.

And finally, Rabbi Yehuda Ben-Yishai is showing the love and devotion he has for his family.

By: james huggins

james huggins — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:24:22 +0000

The nature of arabic peoples goes all the way back to Genesis and their progenitor, Ismael, the illegitimate offspring of Abraham and Hagar, the Egyptian maid to his wife. Arabic people have always had a violent philosophy. When we match this up to a fanatic religion of hate and constant teaching of hatred from birth we get the Palestinians. They cheered and celebrated on 9/11. They cheered and celebrated when Saddam dumped SCUDs on Israel during the Gulf War. They would naturally celebrate the slaughter of a mere Israeli family. This attitude is not impossible to deal with but first the gutless fools in control of our country and culture have to admit we have a problem.

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:27:44 +0000

Christian forgiveness is misunderstood by just about everyone, especially Christians. Jesus said to forgive your brother when he asks you to. That’s a brother, not the serial killer of your children. He also said that when your brother shafts you and refuses to make it right, take him to court if necessary to get justice. Turning the cheek when slapped means- don’t get into a fight with your neighbor, you can stomp a home invader into the carpet. Christian counselors advise Christians to forgive in many cases where the victim has no other recourse in order to remove the self destructive hate and desire for vengeance that can eat the victim’s own life. Unfortunately most Christians are taught their religion by lawyers quoting verses, rather than the instruction of whole books or letters of the Bible’s writers and so we have a great deal of misunderstanding. Christianity is a sect of Judaism not required to follow the Law of Moses but still retain it’s concepts, justice included. That said, I would not object to the citizens hanging the celebrators with the perps, they’re just as guilty in my opinion.

By: Hans

Hans — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:54:32 +0000

Low life cowards celebrated as heroes.

I agree with Dennis on the issue of so called disproportionate use of force… all is fair in love and war. And lets face it, Israel is at war.

By: John McNeill

John McNeill — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:16:32 +0000

I offer my condolences and solidarity with the Israeli people.