Comments on: UPDATED: The Founding Fathers Deconstructed (MT, Saint Or Sadist?) https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mark Humphrey https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-17055 Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:15:27 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-17055 The Founders were remarkable men who were inspired by the idea of individual freedom, and more fundamentally, by their conviction that man’s greatest glory is to understand the world. These were ambitious and confident offspring of the Enlightenment, devoted to the proposition that reason is the Oracle of Man. Contrast Thomas Jefferson and Samuel Adams with today’s pseudo-intellectaul skeptics and thugs who command the levers of power, and sneer at truth and knowlege.

I haven’t bothered to read about the alleged shortcomings of Mother Teresa, beyond those described by Ilana. None of this shocks or surprises me. Mother Teresa devoted her life to trying to live up to an utterly false ideal, namely that sacrifice is the ultimate virtue and that suffering can make one noble. People devoted to false ideals tend to live as hypocrites, because their ideals kill them.

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By: derek https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13610 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 21:47:46 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13610 Washington lead the Continental Army to victory and then resigned leaving the civilians in charge. Later when the nation needed him to become President, he did so but for only two terms. I imagine you could count on one hand how many revolutionary, military or political leaders in history have demonstrated such self-restraint when absolute power was there for the taking. Whatever else Washington did, such as owning slaves, is immaterial to me. Those two acts above put him in a class with Cincinnatus. You can’t even begin to say the same for Mao, Castro and the heroes of the Left.

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By: Mike Marks https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13609 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:50:34 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13609 I don’t know if the point I was trying to make in my piece above about the founders really came through or not. The point is simply yes they were flawed but much better than most of the populace today and furthermore they really understood the true nature of man which allowed them to design a constitutional republic of limited government with that nature in mind.

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By: Michael https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13601 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:08:34 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13601 “Are you an atheist like Hitchens?”

“Yet you include your picture in the article – I suppose so we can all see how ‘beautiful’ you are on the outside.”

It’s refreshing to see we are able to discuss the column based on its merits, or lack thereof, instead of deferring to ad hominem attacks.

To say that the use of the term sadist was disgusting or vulgar is simply histrionics-to say the least. (In fact, the tearing of cloth comes to mind.) Did I dwell on its use when I noticed it was used describing Mother Teresa? Yes. Did I consider that it was used in the wrong context? Yes. But, perhaps the word’s acerbic connotation was the writer’s wish when describing well-documented concerns about the austere practices of Missionaries of Charity. It seems unlikely that the writer believes that Mother Teresa suffered from a psychological disorder that caused her some sort of gratification at the suffering of others.

The more likely alternative would be to impugn the religious and progressive beatification-canonization of Mother Teresa, amongst others. The sixth chapter of the Book of Matthew aptly warns against what became, well-documented, concerns that Mother Teresa began to epitomize the cause celebre:

“Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others.”

“And when you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. ”

That these verses could be used to more affably scrutinize Mother Teresa would draw the apparent satirical intent of the writer into lessons in sensitivity
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d of carping about the de-construction of historical figures under the imprimatur of political correctness.

In other words, calm yourself. Not every word that comes forth from a writer’s mouth is an attack on Rome.

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By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13592 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:14:33 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13592 I (an atheist) would far prefer the Salvation Armies and Catholic Charities minister to the poor than the Department of Housing and Urban Development. I would be quite happy if direct cash/check aid to those charity elements that spend > 70% of their money on emergency food/shelter/medical assistance to the poor was given a tax break such as: give $ 3 to Mother Teresa and save $ 2 off your taxes. CUT WELFARE and let the generosity of a $ 16 trillion free nation take care of the truly destitute.

In that sense, I disagree with the Objectivists who fail to distinguish between altruism of the heart (tzedakah) and compulsory altruism where person A steals the money from person B to give a small portion of the booty to person C.

But having put in my 2 cents of praise for the Mother Teresa’s, I will also state that a freedom fighter like Andrei Sakharov can to more for the poor by establishing liberty than a Teresa. And inventor/entrepreneurs such as Thomas Edison, Steven Jobs, and Jonas Salk do vastly even more for the poor by the natural creation of wealth (via human ingenuity) than the propagation of faith.

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By: Vince Wallgren https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13587 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:56:51 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13587 Dear Mrs. Mercer:

I wholly concur with your assessment that the founders were infinitely more virtuous than the vast majority of today’s Americans. But this cantankerous, seventy-one year old retired USN CPO submits: had the founders insisted that the bedrock principle contained in the Declaration (“…all men are created equal”) be constitutionally codified and slavery absolutely prohibited, chances are deconstruction of the founders’ greatness would never pass muster.

I very much appreciate your contributions in the fight for liberty. God’s infinite blessings to you and yours . . .

Vince Wallgren
La Mesa, California

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By: Jim Dunlap https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13586 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:51:01 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13586 I agree with you completely about our Founding Father’s role in slavery and that they where men of great insight and honor. I know from studing history that many of them deplored slavery but were such moral men that they could not break the laws forbidding them from freeing their slaves. These men found a way to rid themselves of this burden by throwing off the shackles of tryanny, pledging not only their lives and fortunes, but also their sacred honor.

Our Foundinf Fathers were honorable men first and foremost.

How many of our current staff in Congress could even understand what that would be?

Jim Dunlap
Sovereign Citizen of State of Nevada

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13585 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 19:33:14 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13585 A few years ago, my wife and I visited family in Nashville, and Franklin Tennessee. In Franklin, we toured the farm where there was a large Union/Confederate battle. Our tour guide described the battle. The “Rebels” knew that they could not win the fight, but their general (who Lee had tried to fire) ordered the attack anyway. One brave ‘just off the boat’ Irish officer turned to his neighbor and commented. “Well, this is a good day to die.” Led his troops against the Union line and did. No glory, no honor, only needless death. No one in the tour group discussed slavery or righteous cause. I left that scene with a stronger respect for my fellow man. If people only focus on imperfection, they will get what they seek and lose the inspiration to become better. The Black family that only saw the ‘slave quarters’ missed the fact that because of what the founders did, freedom eventually came where in their forefathers land, it rarely has. That will leave the son, like the father, without real ambition, a pitiful legacy.

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By: Mike Marks https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13583 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:47:25 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13583 Yes the founders were flawed MEN but in the end they had much stronger moral compasses than those who govern today. The founders recognized the fallen condition of man. This recognition and understanding of man’s flawed condition led them to design a government of checks and balances.

They were also well educated. The accomplishments of Jefferson, Washington, and Franklin across several professional fields are quite remarkable in their own right. These three men are mentioned here as examples. The founders were all remarkable men in different ways.

The fact that the founders understood the nature of man and understood that liberty and freedom would work best for imperfect man is remarkable in and of itself. Freedom and liberty do not require perfection of men or women. However, it does require a commitment to the social contract and a “moral populace”.

“Perfection” of socialism in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, Vietnam, and Cambodia required the murder of millions and millions of their citizens all in the name of the perfecting the communist man or woman, in theory. In truth it had nothing to do with perfecting anything but maintaining political power.

I honestly believe that one of the keys to the founders success was the fact they understood the nature of man. In the end competition in a free market with minimal rules and regulations results in better products and better companies. If a company is corrupt and underhanded the truth will eventually come to the forefront and the market will punish these deeds.

Clearly the founders understood governance, economics, and the intrinsic value of liberty and freedom.

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By: Paul https://barelyablog.com/the-founding-fathers-deconstructed/comment-page-1/#comment-13582 Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:25:42 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=31957#comment-13582 For an article about our Founding Fathers, their brilliant writings and moral leadership, as well as the ongoing character assasination attempts by the illiterate left, I’m appalled at your insult against Mother Teresa.
You wrote, “That goes for that gnarled, somewhat stupid sadist Mother Teresa, whom Christopher Hitchens nailed in “The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice.”

Of the three persons you named in that paragraph, you only assailed two of them: Blessed Teresa of Calcutta, whose reputation was worldwide and whom many regard a Saint, and Anderson Cooper, an openly homosexual man whose “journalism” is bent to the far left and who is increasingly hostile to Christianity. From my perspective, the only thing that Christopher Hitchens “nailed” in his book is to prove, ad-nauseum, that he’s a foaming at the mouth, anti-Catholic bigot. For those intersted in knowing what drivel is actually contained in Hitchen’s screed, without having to soil themselves intellectually, can go to the following link: http://www.catholicleague.org/rer.php?topic=Book+Reviews&id=27

Shame on you!

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