Comments on: ‘The Genocide in Democratic South Africa’

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:21:48 +0000

Of course Mbeki’s latest statement : “Don’t tell me about something I know (crime) you’re only wasting your time and money.” Clearly the ANC are not interested in the least in tackling crime. It suits them, it is a billion dollar industry for them. Why would they want to tackle something that puts massive amounts of tax money into their coffers? Think about what I am saying.

[Link please, to prove yourÂ quote is authentic. I believe the ANC, being a racist outfit,Â enjoys white misery. But how does it benefit from crime, except to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs?]

By: Gerhard

Gerhard — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:03:10 +0000

Yeah. If it behaves that way it should act that way. If the shoe fits you and all that jazz.

By: Gerhard

Gerhard — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:05:50 +0000

Thank You so much, Ilana! At long last someone on the outside world does something to help South Africans. It isn't only White South Africans who suffer under crime, Thousands of Blacks suffer too. It's sickening. Unfortunately, South Africa doesn't have the rich oilfields of Iraq so the UK and the USA turn a blind eye. But if we let the PEOPLE of America know, they can tell the goverment about it and maybe they can do something about it, even if they only agree to grant White South Africans Asylum... Only the American people can make such a decision and put pressure on their Goverment to stop bombing innocent people and start helping innocent people! Isn't the US a Goverment for the people by the people with liberty and justice for all ? [The US government is for the people of the US only; it's not a world government, although it behaves that way.] Do we not deserve justice ?

By: frans

frans — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:39:20 +0000

Reader’s response from Mbeki’s (Intelligent) Crime comment…

Mbeki: Crime not out of hand
16/01/2007 01:06
Mr President you must be joking right? If you’re not it’s maybe because you’re never in SA to know what’s realy going on there!! My skin crawls everytime I read news 24, people are being killed and raped in their own homes, shot dead in their driveways, 4 year olds are being kicked in their stomachs if they plead with their attackers to please dont kill me!! You call yourself a president, NO Mr President a real pesident takes care of his country. If you were one you would’ve noticed the WAR IN SA! – Margie

Crime not out of Hand
16/01/2007 01:51
I live in the US , recently it was reported by the Iraqi government that 16 000 civilians were killed in Iraq in 2006 ( maybe under reported). Recently in news24 the official murder toll in SA was 16 528. One country is in the middle of a war ( civil) and the other is a peaceful and vibrant economy. So who is at war? One common thread to all of the killing is poverty, there is a long term solution to this. – patrick

Mbeki
16/01/2007 04:00
I agree with Mbeki. SA’s biggest problem is the negaitivity of its people & press. In Aus (my temp home for 3 yrs) people believe they live in the lucky country & talk about this non-stop. They support goverment, yet the country has many faults. In SA people continually look for faults rather than acknowledging the good that’s been done too. I can’t wait to get home as the grass is not greener on the other side. SA’s should aim for solutions not just talk about the bad. – Maree

Mbeki implies crime is controllable
16/01/2007 06:36
By saying crime is not out of control then President Mbeki implies it is controllable. If controllable then why all the crime. There are numerous reasons and types of crime. Levels of violent crime in our country may suggest that some criminal elements are still fighting the war against apartheid which is tantamount to terrorism. This then spills over onto the elite rich coloured and black community who are seen to be part of the “enemy”. The reasons for crime need to be studied. – Bradley Flett

Mbeki
16/01/2007 06:43
What planet(toid) is he from ?? Pluto ? – Tony

Crime is under control…
16/01/2007 06:51
I think a good measure of crime being under control would be when a newspaper can report all the crime that happened the previous day, and still have space for the regular columns and articles of interest. I somehow don’t think we’re there yet. As for personal wealth accumulation, we all want to retire one day. How do you do that without accumulating wealth? There is no social support structure for pensioners, not for me anyway. Around 1% of people can afford to retire, what do you say to that? – Clive

By: frans

frans — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:36:55 +0000

Mbeki: Crime not out of hand
15/01/2007 23:36 – (SA)
Cape Town – Cape Town – President Thabo Mbeki says crime is not getting out of hand.
And most South Africans would agree with him, said Mbeki in an interview flighted by SABC television on Monday.
He admitted that crime – and the damage it was causing to South Africa’s image internationally – was something of a concern.
Mbeki added, however, that it was wrong to suggest crime in the country was uncontrollable.
“There is crime, but this does not mean it is out of control,” he said.
He blamed certain South Africans for not being “careful” on how they communicated the issue of crime.
The president said it was the way they communicated that created the perception crime was out of control in the country.
Arms deal
Asked about recent reports implicating a number of South Africans in a British police probe on corruption between British arms companies and foreign government officials, Mbeki said the British government had not yet spoken to him about the matter.
The names mentioned included that of former defence minister Joe Modise.
Mbeki said South Africa’s arms deal bidding process was “perfectly correct” and not affected by any corruption.
Economy
He was asked why, despite the current economic boom, the ANC-led government was still struggling to meet the needs of many South Africans.
Mbeki cited the country’s weak infrastructure, which he said could not keep up with the rate of economic growth, as one of the major reasons.
He said the rate of economic growth had been underestimated.
“For example, electricity supply did not keep up with the demand.
“We thought we had spare capacity, but now we have a shortage and we must address that.”
Mbeki said government would have to invest more money in roads, ports, railways and electricity supply in the country to keep up with economic growth.
“It is a problem, but it is a good problem,” he said.
He said government would also encourage the private sector to become involved.
Local government
Mbeki said there was also a problem at local government level to make capital investment in infrastructure.
“We can have good national strategies and plans and even the money, but if local government doesn’t implement these, it doesn’t work.”
He said government had a plan to deal with this.
“That is why people are being called out of retirement and why we are also looking elsewhere to see where we can borrow people with the necessary expertise to implement government’s plans and strategies.”
Personal wealth
He also mentioned a culture of personal wealth accumulation amongst South Africans as something that had to be fought.
Due to the “evolution” of South Africa into a democratic society, a value system based on material things being a measure of a person’s success had become entrenched, Mbeki said.
“This is not a new thing… this has been around for a long time.”
Mbeki said people must rediscover the principle of Ubuntu.
“We must rediscover what this value system means.
“You can’t say you practice Ubuntu, but then you steal your grandmother’s pension money.”

http://www.news24.co.za

By: frans

frans — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:28:51 +0000

Black South Africa

“God has left Africa” – Bruce Willis – Tears of the Sun.

Well, God is certainly not present in South Africa. For what once was a Christian orientated country, is now a godless hell hole. Murder, rape, robberies and corruption have been, and continuously are on the front page of our newspapers and news bulletins. It’s reached a stage where news articles are being censored by the government. Democratic or Communistic?

Farmers are being targeted, not recently, but for the last 7 years. It’s disconcerting, because the motive is unknown.I believe the (ANC) governmnet is secretly or quietly ‘cleansing’ the country. We are at war. A silent war.

I’m an Afrikaans South African citizen. And no, I’m not a racist. I’ll add to this blog on a continual basis, evidence that our citizens are at war with criminals–or terrorists that are quite possibly ’employed’ by the ANC government. And that our current, corrupt, uneducated, government has no answer to the crime in this country, or is just blatently denying the truth.

Wether you’re a white, black, pink or green reader of this blog,take my word for it,South African citizens are at war with criminals and with the mafia that is the ANC government.

As a final word for this entry, please, all Christians out there, please pray for this country and its citizens.

By: frans

frans — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:59:40 +0000

Rattray murder ‘an SA tragedy’
29/01/2007 07:28 – (SA)
Sandile Waka-Zamisa
Pietermazitzburg – The brutal murder of historian and Anglo-Zulu War expert David Rattray has sent shockwaves across the country.
Rattray was gunned down at his home at the Fugitive’s Drift lodge on Friday.
Traditional leaders, politicians, tourism communities and leaders abroad have reacted with outrage to the news.
Zulu king Goodwill Zwelithini, currently on an overseas tour, reacted with shock to the news, head of the Royal household department Vusi Shongwe told The Witness.
IFP leader and KwaZulu-Natal house of traditional leaders chair Mangosuthu Buthelezi said Rattray’s killing was a South African tragedy.
KZN Premier Sbusiso Ndebele said he was outraged by the murder.
Asked for Rattray by name
Police spokesperson Phindile Radebe said six men, armed with pistols and rifles first accosted Rattray’s receptionist and demanded money.
Then they asked for Rattray by name. “One man was wearing a balaclava and he started shouting: Where’s David?”
Radebe said they entered Rattray’s house and found him in the bathroom, getting ready to go cycling. Here they shot him.
The killers fled without taking anything.
As an expert on the 19th-century Anglo-Zulu War, Rattray played a key role in attracting foreign tourists to the conflicts’ battlefields in KwaZulu-Natal.
He was known internationally for his lectures on the war, during which Zulu warriors inflicted a humiliating defeat on British colonial forces, provoking bloody retaliation.
Ndebele expressed his outrage at the “heinous” murder of Rattray.
Custodian of ‘priceless traditions’
“He was responsible for bringing many world famous personalities, among them Prince Charles, to our province and had developed an iconic status as a cultural tourism guide.
“His senseless and callous murder will fill all peace-loving South Africans with disgust.”
Buthelezi said Rattray was a custodian of priceless traditions. “Rattray was a unique person and his death is an inestimable loss to our country.
“The oral traditions of which he was such a rich custodian are priceless and much of this has been lost with his untimely death in the prime of his life.”
Buthelezi warned that crime was getting out of control.
“It saddens me to draw the attention of the leadership of our country to the fact that criminality is getting out of control.
“Crime is going to engulf our society and destroy our hard-won freedom unless action is taken to vigorously curb it now.”
Ndebele, however, gave the assurance that the perpetrators will be brought to book.
No arrests
“Crimes like these eat away at the moral fibre of our society.
Our government will see to it that those responsible for this vile murder are brought to justice.” In the meantime, Radebe said there were no developments in the investigation.
She said a provincial team had been tasked with the investigation. The Democratic Alliance expressed outrage over the killing.
DA spokesperson on safety and security, Dianne Kohler- Barnard, said the death of Rattray was an “incalculable loss”.

http://www.news24.co.za

By: frans

frans — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:52:00 +0000

Wild-West robbers hit Zwartkops
04/02/2007 23:15 – (SA)
Liela Magnus, Beeld
Pretoria – A Tshwane metro policeman and a motor sport enthusiast are fighting for their lives in Pretoria hospitals after a wild shoot-out with a number of armed robbers during an international race at the Zwartkops racing track on Saturday.
Tshwane cop Edwin Reynolds, 30, who was on point duty at the entrance to the racing track on Saturday morning, was crippled by a single shot.
During the gunfight at the David Piper International show, racing enthusiast Deon Smit, 52, was wounded in his right side.
He was shot below the ribs and is recovering in the high-care unit of Pretoria Academic Hospital.
Shot at close range
Smit said from his hospital bed on Sunday that he definitely would be dead if the robber’s clip had not fallen out of his pistol.
The robber shot him at close range through his car door.
Edwin’s brother, Erick Reynolds, was in sombre mood at Unitas Hospital. He was “just thankful that my brother is alive”.
“He was just doing his job.”
Smit was in his car in the queue waiting to go in, just behind six of the robbers in a bakkie [pickup].
He related that some of the robbers jumped off the bakkie and one fell against his car.
The man walked right to the driver’s side and shot him through the door.
Smit said: “There I was, in all innocence, waiting to go into a place I had paid for when the guys in the bakkie in front of me jumped down, and start firing left and right.”
A security guard from Ubuntu Security shot the robber who had wounded Smit, from behind.
The robbers fled with three vehicles and R1 500 from the ticket office after firing at people, and in the air.
Another Ubuntu Security guard returned the fire and is thought to have wounded a second robber.
Louise Brits of Tshwane metro police said the reservist, who was working with Reynolds, was making coffee when he heard what sounded like crackers going off.
The man’s name cannot be disclosed for security reasons.
When he spun round, he stared into the eyes of one of the robbers, who was about three metres away from him and Reynolds.
The robber’s automatic weapon apparently jammed.
Reynolds fired at him in self-defence, while he and the reservist sought shelter behind two bakkies.
The robbers opened fire on them, shooting up the bakkies and wounding Reynolds.
Reynolds and Smit were airlifted by helicopter to Unitas Hospital in Centurion.
Smit was later transferred to Pretoria Academic Hospital.
Two cars found abandoned
Roxanne Tucker, 16, Natalie Joubert, 14, and Maquita Buitendag, 15, who were working in the ticket office at the entrance of the racing track, said the robbery was frightening. They had no intention of working there again.
Shortly afterwards, the police found two of the cars used in the robbery a few kilometres from Zwartkops track, at Mooiplaats.
Both had blood in them, and police were able to lift fingerprints from one of the vehicles.
It’s suspected the vehicles were hijacked earlier.

http://news24.co.za

By: frans

frans — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 05:48:09 +0000

‘We’re going to kill whites’
04/02/2007 23:14 – (SA)
Hilda Fourie, Beeld
Pretoria – “We are going to kill all you whites, a robber shouted at Martin Vermeulen, 28, this weekend, moments after shooting his friend.
Albie Greyling, 25, died on his mother’s lawn in Eldoraigne, Pretoria, about 19:30 on Friday after being shot above his left eye.
Albie, a final-year paramedic at the University of Johannesburg, became engaged to Sandra Barnard in December, and made the final payment on the ring on Friday.
Yolanda Barnard, Sandra’s sister, said Albie just happened to be at home on Friday.
He was to have gone to a braai [BBQ in Afrikaans], but first went to drop off his clothes at home. He stayed in Johannesburg during the week.
Cornered by the robbers
His 60-year-old mother Susan, was overpowered by three robbers in her flat about 19:00.
They hit her on the back of the head with a revolver and ran out of the house with R700 and her cellphone.
That’s when the robbers ran into Martin and Albie.
They first fired a shot at Martin, but missed and Albie was shot.
Martin ran around to the swimming pool at the back, where he was cornered by the robbers. He told them to take everything, but just to leave him.
They saw their chance to escape and fled.
Yolanda said the robbers had spoken to Albie’s mom in Afrikaans, “but what really upsets me is that they told Martin that they were going to kill all of you whites”.

http://www.news24.co.za

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:41:15 +0000

Well South Africa comes to America. Now it is getting close to home. http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/local_news/article/0,1406,KNS_347_5306123,00.html: "She was raped and beaten by an assailant or assailants savvy enough and calm enough to try to cover their tracks. They forced her mouth open and sprayed some type of household cleaner inside in an apparent attempt to wipe out any DNA their acts may have left..." Read the rest here.