Comments on: UPDATE II: The Perils of a Killer President (Parlaying Vice into Votes) https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20365 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:02:56 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20365 Two great precedents of history:

(1) Alice In Wonderland – “Sentence First, Verdict Afterwards”

http://dwi.austindefense.com/2008/07/articles/dwi-probation-jail-prison/sentence-first-verdict-afterwards/

(2) The Star Chamber in history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

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By: Dennis https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20351 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:11:58 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20351 Think. Please watch “THE PRESTIGE”…a very interesting movie starring Michael Caine and Hugh Jackman, DVD Release 2007.

Watch it twice. You will then have an idea of MISDIRECTION. If Illusionists / Magicians can do it, don’t you think the “Professionals” are much more adroit at it?

America and Americans do have enemies. If you think otherwise, you are fooling yourself. How we handle that situation says more about us than them. I was stunned by a report I watched on Friday in which a group of Americans applauded when the news of AL AL-WAKI’s sudden demise was presented. Have we become those whom we detest OR have we become so naive and ill-educated about the world outside the U.S. OR are we constantly being misdirected about everything, by whom, and why?

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By: My Ron Paul i https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20348 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 01:02:22 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20348 Well, life imitates art. Today, there was a Law and Order rerun where this ex-Army guy is monitoring a “Joseph Hayden” who is apparently “Yuseef Hadeen”, an illegal with ties to suspicious guys in Yemen (!!) – etc – and the Army guy kills him in New York. It appears that Yuseef really was a terrorist but the District Attorney and a jury decide that one man cannot serve as “judge, jury, and executioner”!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629370/

… but, then, as Richard Nixon so eloquently put it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8

“When the President (Seig Heil everyone!) does it, that means that it is not illegal”

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By: Contemplationist https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20347 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 00:39:10 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20347 John Danforth

You are fundamentally an American – and thats not an insult. You may try checking out Europe someday – how about Marseille or the Arab ghettos of Copenhagen, Oslo or Malmo? Try Bradford in England. Your perspective is understandable but laughably false. I do not support any neocon wars for “freedom.” Just because some of those blowhards warn about the threat of Sharia does not mean they are wrong. Have more nuance than that! Ilana would agree with me I think – that this problem is easily solved with immigration policy, not wars and Patriot acts.

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By: Steve Hogan https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20345 Sat, 01 Oct 2011 20:24:51 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20345 I linked to an article describing this hit job on my Facebook page and deplored the mafia-style actions of our out-of-control government. The reaction? One like and no comments despite having over 100 Facebook friends. A collective yawn.

No one cares. No one even wonders how such a horrible precedent will be used to justify similar hit jobs here at home. I guess that would require a little thought, a little introspection, and maybe the willingness to question what our government is doing in our name.

I’m not sure what is more disturbing: Obama’s criminal behavior or America’s disinterest. How egregious does it have to be before the sheeple wake up?

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By: sunny black https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20344 Sat, 01 Oct 2011 18:29:25 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20344 This Al Awlaki murder, and the subsequent reaction (support of it, and demonization of those against it), makes me realize that for all the interest over the past couple of years in the Constitution and first principles, the commitment to principle is superficial for many to most.

I understand why Obama did what he did. He didn’t want the firestorm of having a trial. He didn’t want this man speaking (By the way, where’s the passionate rebuke from the Left?? This is one issue where leftists and civil libertarians can find common ground).

The Republican support(and Tea Party approval?) is not surprising, but disappointing nonetheless. Mrs. Mercer and Congressman Paul get it: the U.S. government now has license to kill American citizens on flimsy “evidence” and hearsay. The line hasn’t been crossed. The line has been disappeared (thanks in part to a man who was a part-time constitutional law instructor …the irony).

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By: John Danforth https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20343 Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:59:08 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20343 P.S. — Even in Dearbornistan, not too far from here, there is no visible inclination to try instituting Sharia law. Consider the source, motivation, and likelihood of these fear-based memes. They are used to provide emotional support or disarm criticism of tyrannical policies, to get you to accept the opposite of the stated goal.

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By: John Danforth https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20342 Sat, 01 Oct 2011 15:27:59 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20342 @Contemplationist;

Pardon me for this, as a resident of the U.S., I can think of no more absurd proposition than the canard that our society will adopt Sharia law.

Except insofar as we adopt Christian Sharia, meaning we become more like them, with the Patriot Act, Torture, Invasions and Preemptive War, Secret Wars, Rendition, and all the other manifestations of a totalitarian state, now including open, brazen Murder. All this supposedly to fight those who supposedly hate us for our freedom and prosperity, which are being destroyed by our own government.

Now obviously it seems rational to only welcome immigrants who agree with the basic tenets of freedom. But even so, the fear-based meme is that we are all going to somehow convert to Islam and adopt Sharia law here. That’s just preposterous. Think about it: how many people do you know that are on the verge of switching to Islam?

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By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20341 Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:18:50 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20341 In developing a dictatorship through the use of law, one should enact the laws to use against the scum. The ‘good’ citizens will applaud the effort to make the community safer by eradicating the ones who are perceived as preying on the good. The camel now has his nose under the tent flap. Eventually the ‘death panels’ come into being, medical- who gets what service. Political- who becomes ‘an enemy of the state?’ Anwar al-Awlaki’s only crime was writing comments that were considered offensive to the US Administration. Technically he was the modern day equivalent to Patrick Henry for the Muslims. (Not being Muslim, he didn’t speak for me, but that’s not the point.) The first amendment is only in effect when someone abuses the freedom of speech. What’s the ‘right’ to be politically correct worth? Apparently your life, according to the president.

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By: My Ron Paul i https://barelyablog.com/the-perils-of-a-killer-president/comment-page-1/#comment-20340 Sat, 01 Oct 2011 09:37:52 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=42874#comment-20340 I’m not as fretful about Yemen’s “sovereignty” – in that it recalls some arguments I had 30 years ago about Israel firing back at Lebanese rocket attacks — “Well Lebanon fired at Israel” “No, that was the PLO” “OK, then Israel hit the PLO positions” “No, it was Lebanon” … until finally I said “Latitude X Longitude Y fired at Israel and Israel fired back at X,Y and whether you call it Lebanon, PLO, or Dog Manure doesn’t make a difference!”

Still, rule of law, independent judicial/Congressional determination, attempts at extradition, etc. should be tried. El Presidente is not supposed to be a demigod thug (Republican or Democrat). Paul and Johnson both objected to this “hit man” mentality:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20113962-503544.html?tag=re1.channel

and, of course, it was not much different than the “hit” on bin Laden.

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