Comments on: UPDATED: ‘The Three Sisters’ War’ (US Hubris)

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 03:01:51 +0000

Mike: CS Lewis- “We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful.”–CS Lewis–
Reference “Old Retired Petty Office Blog”

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 00:49:37 +0000

It is a boon to warmongers and power hungry American politicians (and their suckup coterie such as Samantha Power and Susan Rice) that the world does not suffer from a bad guy shortage.

The US has taken up the role of “The Lord High Executioner” of Gilbert and Sullivan’s Mikado and we even have “A Little List” of bad guys whom to go to war with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN4T-L-lz-4

By: Mike Marks

Mike Marks — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:16:00 +0000

You all have covered the Libyan policy problems and the potential consequences (intended and unintended) pretty well. Pol Pots killing fields were also a result of the Vietnam aftermath.

I have a question and a comment for Ilana. I like the fact that you have pointed out the “estrogen factor” that appears to have led Obama down this path. In the past you have commented on the feminization of the American male. I would say the troika of women leading the President in this manner also illustrates the feminization of the American male, does it not? One of my favorite quotes about the way the west has treated its males comes from T. S. Elliot it goes something like “castrate the geldings and tell them to go forth and be fruitful”.

[Great comment.]

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:24:10 +0000

Robert: Agreed that your interpretation of the Adam and Eve story is correct. I break it down further to the simple “And you shall KNOW good from evil” as the tendency to place Intellectualism above common sense. Hence we have leaders that KNOW what is best. Common sense tells us that Libya is a sovereign nation and its internal affairs are between its citizens and their government; however, the fruit of the tree of knowledge “Intellectualism’ states that we, especially in the US should interfere. As one person (Kenneth Copeland coined the phrase) “Ignorance gone to seed.”

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 04:59:14 +0000

Interfering in an internal Vietnamese struggle where the “North” (communists) conquered the “South” and killed 200,000 resulted in an extra 4,000,000 being killed. Is there ANY evidence that Gadhafi would commit “genocide” as opposed to a 1989 Chinese jailing of around 10,000 regime opponents? Furthermore, jailing of 10,000 people dedicated to overthrowing you is hardly more unreasonable than jailing millions of pot smokers – see

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/19/opinion/19blow.html?_r=1&ref=charlesmblow

So should the UN authorize force against New York City for harassing young black men over the last 10 years since they MIGHT be smoking dope??

The neocons have “Munich and Hitler” and the neoliberals have “Rwanda and Darfur” – either of which, REGARDLESS OF ANY FACTS OR EVIDENCE, “justifies” pushing the US to war. This defies the Constitutional provisions and early historical precedents to confine war to (1) defensive actions or (2) American rights to use of the seas or (3) punish piracy, rebellions, and Indian raids.

Pat and Ilana have good columns – sadly, 90% of the “mainstream” op-ed writers of the media are all pro-war power suckups. Being skeptical on the exercise of “bold executive leadership” puts one at the op-ed “fringe” even if the American public themselves are more divided.

Read:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/woods/woods167.html

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:36:07 +0000

Many questions here. One (hopefully) unambiguous answer to them all: (1) from a religious perspective … the fruit consumed by Eve (and later by her mate) was not an apple (see Latin “malum”); or from the secular … the philosophy of Karl Popper (“paradox of tolerance”) in his “Open Society” (which seems to deteriorate into Marx and the use of force).

By: Daniel

Daniel — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:34:02 +0000

We can be sure of the hypocrisy of this Libyan undertaking be the fact that our government will remain passive, if not covertly supportive, of violent crackdowns on protesters in Bahrain and Yemen. How soon until the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical Muslims are running Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia?

By: MeMyselfI

MeMyselfI — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:10:18 +0000

The purpose is to establish precedent for the UN “obligation to protect” doctrine. This doctrine will be used to create more chaos, and then – eventually – as the reason to attack Isreal.

By: james huggins

james huggins — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:58:28 +0000

Why is the revolt in Libya any business of the Americans? Obviously it isn’t. Remember though, Obama does nothing unless he has a hidden agenda of some sort or else he’s just an incompetent boob. Or some combination of the two. Also I have always been interested in the crocodile tears shed by the left for the victims of African genocide such as Darfur and Rwanda while ignoring the thousands of white victims of the same genocidal assault down in South Africa.

By: Hans

Hans — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:02:55 +0000

Another refreshing perspective from Ilana.

This intervention is just wrong on so many levels. And I’m no peace-sign waiving hippie, I did my national service with pride and do believe in just wars. This is not one.

I have been wondering, should the American South decide to secede from the USA, and they take whatever steps they have to including military steps to defend their new borders, Washington would probably use military might to put a stop thereto. Will the UN then intervene in stopping Washington from using military force against the South? If they do will Washington have the moral high ground to complain about UN intervention? (not that the UN will intervene, its too lame, only willing to take on small fry). I do not belief they thought this war through properly.

Does anyone even how many Libyans are actually opposed to Gadhafi?