Comments on: UPDATE II: Thomas Jefferson On Debt & Despotism (S & P Simply I.Ding The Corpse) https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/ by ilana mercer Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dennis https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/comment-page-1/#comment-18549 Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:39:32 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=37013#comment-18549 Hey Glisson, I support your point.

Compassionate Fascist…ya, that worked out well for the German Jews, the Gypsies, etc.

I really wish anyone who owns a home would go to City Hall and try to get their Tax Valuation lowered. Next, ask this question to your vehicle licensing authority: Why is my vehicle plate tax based on the “purchase price” of the vehicle – if in your state it is – rather than the “Gross Vehicle Weight”. Vehicle weight, not value, wears-out the road. Finally, imagine what that would be like if it were the Fed’s bureaucracy with which you had to deal.

FASCISM: A fantasy for those who “kiss ass”, but can’t produce anything or even find joy in working for producers.

]]>
By: Robert Glisson https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/comment-page-1/#comment-18534 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:06:23 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=37013#comment-18534 Compassionate Fascist: “And I’m not stupid enough to believe that you libertarians have any solutions.”

I hear this statement on most of the conservative and liberal sites I visit. Nowhere in any libertarian concepts do I find any statement that we do have the solutions. We say, small governments can solve their problems better than large governments and that large governments cause large problems. We do not try to be “know it all-with one solution fits all.” The citizens themselves are always responsible for the solutions. Arizona looks at immigration different than New Jersey, for example, even cities inside Arizona see it differently. Looking for a government leader, Republican, Democrat or Libertarian is asking for a dictatorship and ducking personal responsibility.

]]>
By: Michael https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/comment-page-1/#comment-18532 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:47:45 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=37013#comment-18532 Although Ron Paul is most known for monetary policy, I believe he is more well-rounded than some would believe-particularly in foreign policy. However, I wish he were more like Jefferson in that aspect. It probably would not prove beneficial given that most Americans are unable to consider our foreign entanglements based on the evidence at hand. In this regard, I suppose the appropriate political consideration is not to question entanglements dating back one-hundred years, as I would. He is right to question whether our Middle Eastern foreign policy presents an immediate national interest. He is also right to conclude the occupying Afghanistan-Iraq-Pakistan during an Islamic revival is definitely not within our national interest-despite however much it would cater to the meddlesome neighbor that is our national psyche.

In my previous response, I was expressing my skepticism that our march toward default and/or totalitarianism was inevitable because prerogative writs remained within the hands of government agents who are more than willing conspirators and/or incapable of retrospect. Regrettably, it is self-evident that the Framer’s Intent was designed for a classically educated and religious populace, who were bound by common ancestry and blood. It is perhaps incompatible with present day America-I am not certain how to resolve that.

]]>
By: Steve Hogan https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/comment-page-1/#comment-18531 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:31:13 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=37013#comment-18531 Making people debt slaves works until it doesn’t. Eventually the American economy, built entirely on the principles of a Ponzi scheme, will tumble and fall. Anyone that thinks we’ll ever pay off our enormous debt is seriously delusional.

The real question: how will Americans respond to the collapse? Will they be like the Japanese in the aftermath of the tsunami, and withstand the pain to come with stoicism and resolve, or will they lash out against their neighbors in a Hobbesian temper tantrum?

Of course, getting angry and marching against those responsible for the debacle is encouraged, but that would require an educated populace. We don’t have that.

It could get ugly. Keep your powder dry.

]]>
By: CompassionateFascist https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/comment-page-1/#comment-18529 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 04:04:29 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=37013#comment-18529 Since Ron Paul thinks that the Fed is the ultimate source of our ripening economic catastrophe, that’s all he is: a “momentary distraction”. The real issues are structural: 30 years of open-borders cheap labor insourcing that has destroyed working class real$ purchasing power, and 30 years of “free trade” job outsourcing that has destroyed middle class real$ purchasing power. In the context of this hollowed-out economy, Bernanke and Co. are doing about all they can do to keep the sinking ship afloat yet awhile longer: monetize just about everything. Won’t work much longer, but I don’t blame them for trying. And I’m not stupid enough to believe that you libertarians have any solutions.

]]>
By: Myron Pauli https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/comment-page-1/#comment-18528 Mon, 18 Apr 2011 03:52:39 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=37013#comment-18528 Of course, any Constitution can only be as good as the people are willing to enforce it. This one was slowly getting wounded like a prizefighter but staggered around for a while until receiving a technical knockout in 1937.

If government spending was productive, it would not be an enormous problem but most of it is malinvestment – very few “dividends” come out of a bomb dropped on a Pushtun, a Social Security check to a retired millionaire, or an agribusiness subsidy.

The unproductive Welfare-Warfare leviathan must be fed with taxes from the rich, taxes from the middle class, counterfeit inflation, or debt – and in this case, a toxic combination of all 4. Debt, however, is growing out of control. Should interest rates go from 2% to 6%, the interest on the current debt (and the Fannie-Freddie part) will grow by $3000 per taxpayer / year. This is all highly unsustainable.

Jefferson also said that one generation shall not bind another generation but the WWII and Boomer Generation have already bound the next two into debt slavery.

]]>
By: Michael https://barelyablog.com/thomas-jefferson-on-debt-despotism/comment-page-1/#comment-18527 Sun, 17 Apr 2011 23:40:32 +0000 http://barelyablog.com/?p=37013#comment-18527 An admirable effort that will ultimately prove futile given that the average government agent, in whom the powers of arrest apparently reside, is functionally illiterate.

If the central planners thought that local, state and federal law enforcement as well as the U.S. military were something other than common dolts, than there would be some cause for a belief that a return to a Framers’s Intent were possible.

With the aforementioned serving as willing conspirators in our government’s “debate” concerning “The People’s Business,” there is essentially no reason for the central planners to regard the likes of Ron Paul, amongst others, as anything other than a momentary distraction.

]]>