Comments on: UPDATE I: US Engineering & Egalitarian Education

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:18:55 +0000

There are plenty of intelligent engineers etc. that are very qualified. They just happen to be white guys young and old. The bad school statistics are skewed by including minorities which screws everything up.

Industry merely wants to hire cheaper young people and throw them on the scrap heap when they’re 35.

For solid information on the computer industry and its disgraceful and unethical practices; see Prof. Norm Matloff U. of Calif. at Davis – he’ll set you straight.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:50:19 +0000

Here is some Food for Thought…

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0611/Technology_leader_usa.php3

Objective Reality seems to be hard to discover…

By: Dennis

Dennis — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:20:05 +0000

These Links are for those of you who are trying to find something to enable your kids to be able to read, write, and comprehend at a much higher level than that found in most public – government – schools.

Please note: http://www.alphaphonics.com
http://www.german-latin-english.com and also see: http://www.howtofactor.com

I loved diagramming. It was challenging, fun, and gave immediate feedback similar to building something does. BTW…Search for the diagram of the 2nd Amendment and you will learn why all the counter-arguments are fallacious.

ps: CF, I’ll bet you have never driven over a cliff because you had the smarts to NEVER accept GPS directions at face value. Am I correct?

By: CompassionateFascist

CompassionateFascist — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 03:30:21 +0000

“our schools have problems…”. !!!!!!! I frequently have Univ. of Calif, students in my cab. About 1 in 4 can complete a subject/predicate sentence in the English language. I can recall learning how to do this in the First Grade, via diagramming and phonics. Not any more. Now it’s “language immersion”…………..This Teachers Union-orchestrated dumb-down is, of course, purposeful: creating subjects, not citizens, forever dependent on goobermint and its debt-financed handouts. Ultimately: you want your cheese ration? Over there…thru the gate…in that FEMA camp.

By: Abelard Lindsey

Abelard Lindsey — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:17:35 +0000

The Problem that Eric Spiegel has noted is not solely due to our sorry education system. A lot of it is due to many corporation having the HR people do the screening and hiring of candidates, rather than the hiring managers themselves. This problem is not as bad as it was, say, 8 years ago. But it is still a problem.

Nevertheless, Spiegel is correct that our schools have problems.

By: Robert Glisson

Robert Glisson — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:32:53 +0000

A few years ago, I saw a television show where a guest was a returning American foreign student. Her comparison was that the students in, I think Scotland, were so serious about getting an education that they had absolutely no school spirit at all; where in America, school spirit is everything. Sort of off topic but applicable, I think. Recently a Republican stated that we needed to have a citizenship test for voters. Cries of ‘racism’ rang from the walls. I asked why, “Because Blacks can’t pass them” was the reply from my progressive tablemate. I had a Black friend where I worked, she told me her version of the Civil Rights Law; paraphrased. “We wanted equal schools, where our kids would be educated to the same level as the white kids,” Same standards, but better teachers and schools. “Instead we got Affirmative action and worst schools.” The answer to all of this seems to be, education= bad; cheer leading government policy= good.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:25:21 +0000

In the 1950s I attended a Catholic Parochial Grade School. We knew by 3rd Grade who the Smarties were and the Nuns told those who were Goofballs that they were just that unless they changed. High School was a private, all boys Catholic one and we were tracked. The priests/brothers/lay teachers were not shy about expelling trouble-makers nor about recognizing the high achievers. (BTW, I paid for 1/2 of the tuition and parents the other 1/2…so did a lot of my friends.) Today, everyone’s kids are “HONOR STUDENTS”. LOGIC DEFIES THAT STATEMENT. Detroit and Chicago used Social Promotions, i.e. all pass with the group, for 17 or 18 years. The U.S graduates approx 75K engineers/yr while China graduates approx 350K engineers/yr. NOTE: Go to any university’s graduation ceremony and see what percentage are actually U.S. born/raised vs visiting students.

Yes, self-esteem. without any measurable achievements, from childhood up to adulthood(?) is the newest national mythology. We will soon pay the price for that lie.

If any readers are entrepreneurial, please start something or get involved. A friend in Detroit is working with kids and trying to get them interested in aero-mechanics at a local, 50 yr old +, school just for that skill-set. I am concerned that if we in the U.S. do not strive for excellence and achievement, well,where do we and our kids go from here?

By: Myron Pauli

Myron Pauli — Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:09:58 +0000

My father attended Gymansium in Vienna with an attractive brunette who became a famous inventor:

http://www.inventions.org/culture/female/lamarr.html

as well as an actress. In fact, one of the ideas I am trying to get funded involves some of her techniques.

But my father was appalled how moronic MY education was back in the 1960’s which appears to be a “Golden Age” compared to the dreadful state of politically correct garbage of today. You are, as usual, spot on as is Patrick Buchanan in a similar essay:

http://lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan171.html

I’m shocked by the schlocky condition of American “education” with PC jive, feminization, drugging of students, make-work homework drudgery, incoherent curricula, lack of critical thinking, etc. I think anyone with a sharp brain should be completing this K-12 bilge by age 14 and be done with it but most parents think that smart kids should stay in school just to “socialize”. Rosalyn Yalow, for example, finished up COLLEGE at age 19:

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1977/yalow-autobio.html

and didn’t hang out to be cool or socialize – that’s American “education” these days. We import scientists/engineers like we import oil – America being good these days only for printing money and bombing Moslems (to no particular end in either case!).