Comments on: Updated Again: Webb Wallops W.

By: Robert Nisbeth

Robert Nisbeth — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 05:10:55 +0000

I hope Webb shows Virginia that he does have values. I hope he does not “fall in” with left wingers. I have heard and read a handful of good Democrats’ ideas and opinions. I personally don’t care what party he is working, as long as the government works for the betterment of the people. If Jim Webb does this, he will have done his part and then Republicans will get a more real message.

By: james huggins

james huggins — Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:41:24 +0000

Kudos to Leonard for knowing his history. Yes the Russians took it on the chin and finally rolled up the Germans in a most decisive manner. Of course they were just as guilty as the Brits and French of letting Hitler have his way in the 1930’s which led to the European war. Without Americans and Brits dying in record numbers on those Arctic convoys and without Americans footing most of the bill over there with supplies the Red Army would have been finally destroyed with the spring thaw of 1943.

Mercer, some points:A) To Americans death for the State is the same thing as death for freedom. You must remember that for many generations Americans were naive enough to equate the State (USA that is) with freedom. That’s back when life in this country was simple and mostly prosperous. Sort of like reruns of “Leave it to Beaver”. At one time this was actually a true proposition but I believe it all ended with the destruction of the Constitution by Abraham Lincoln. It all ended but because of public school indoctrination the citizens didn’t realize it. Now, of course, public school indoctrination is to blindly hate the country rather than blindly support the country.

B) Your comments about our leaders finishing off capitalism and turning this country into another third world dung heap are right on. I will never contest that point. I support the United States but, alas, see darn few leaders worth spit.

Just what I like to start the day. A spirited debate. Let’s do it again some time before the politicians in Washington start cracking down on dissent like we all know they want to.

[Wonderful spirited letter, Huggs.]

By: Leonard

Leonard — Sun, 03 Dec 2006 03:56:45 +0000

James, many Europeans think that they have learned something from their “past practices [showing] a lack of concern for human life that staggers the imagination”. That lesson, to be pedantic, is that peace is good, militarism is bad. Not the sort of lesson that America appears to have internalized.

Yet, we have the same history, more or less. I expect that is what puzzles them about us. The difference is that war has always been kind to our ruling classes. Not so for theirs.

As for WWII: we were not the decisive factor in Europe, although we helped. Rather, the Soviets were, although it was really the Nazi’s reluctance to go to full-blown war production that doomed them. By the time we had more than token military effect in Europe (in 1944), the Germans were defeated. By Soviet blood, not American.

By: james huggins

james huggins — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:04:26 +0000

Re your update: It's interesting to me how people on "other continents" view us as bloodthirsty militarists and of course money spending boors. But, when they get their tails in a crack they don't hesitate to let us spend American lives and cash to save them. The next time the Germans decide to kick some French and British tails we should let them go for it rather than expending tens of thousands of American lives to protect European shoe shines. I know history as well as the next fellow and realize that that was a war that had to be fought but I also realize that the Brits and French let the situation get out of hand in the 1930's and we did step up to the plate when we had to. Americans callous about human lives? Strange criticism coming from European and other cultures where past practices show a lack of concern for human life that staggers the imagination. [That was MY criticism. And this is a quote from me: "Would that Republicans fussed as much over the many fully formed human-beings dying daily in Iraq, as they do over fetuses." And this is your logical fallacy, dear friend: the fact someone else was/is bad doesn't make our indiscretions any better. Having grown up in Israel where people are paranoid about loss of life, I repeat: Americans glorify death for the state, which can't even be equated with death for freedom.] Americans have plenty of warts. You've read enough of my stuff to know I'm not blind to them but I become weary of people who can't get it together any better than we can and usually not as well, looking down their elitist noses at the ugly Americans. They can all kiss my American gluteus maximus. They all bash the US but they all want to move here. Strange.. [Good point; but once Our Leaders finish off capitalism here, and, through mass immigration, turn this place into a Third World, we'll all want to escape it.]

By: james huggins

james huggins — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:22:04 +0000

Sounds to me like dubya was being polite and Mr. Webb was being a classless jerk.