UPDATED: It Takes An Indian

History,IMMIGRATION,Judaism & Jews,Left-Liberalism And Progressivisim,Multiculturalism,Nationhood

            

To tell it like it is. An American Indian. This may be well-ploughed territory to readers of this space, but it can’t be said often enough. “America is not a nation of immigrants. America is a nation of White Anglo-Saxon Protestants,” writes David Yeagley at AltRight. “Everyone else is an immigrant. Even the early Celtic add-ons were not part of the foundations. The later Irish Catholic immigrants were most definitely not part of the foundations. The social order, that is, the government of the colonies, and that system which distilled into the Declaration of Independence, was created by White Anglo-Saxon Protestants. The Constitution of the United States of America is the work of Englishman who separated themselves, by war, from their home country.”

“Modern descendants of the Scots, the Irish, the Germans, the Italians, the Jews, etc., are first to declare that America is a nation of immigrants. This is their self-protection. Therefore this is their talking point when it comes to addressing the issue of immigration in general. But their mantra ‘America is a nation of immigrants’ only justifies their own presence here. The fact is, these people are all additions, not founders. All of the early immigrants, besides the Jews, have of course blended themselves into the founding sentiments. It was easier for the Scots than anyone else, because they were ‘British’ anyway.”

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About left-liberal Jewish strategising, which is no different to the wimpy, lemming’s lunacy evinced by their WASP counterparts, THE BAD EAGLE says the following:

At this point, the argument that other non-WASP groups must be nurtured and honored by the Jew, in order for the Jew to protect himself from persecution, is a dangerous argument, and really ought to be dropped. It invites anti-Americanism. This in turn invites anti-Semitism

The argument is also self-defeating, as I observed in my 2003 “BLAME THE JEWS”:

“MacDonald’s assertion that Jews support open immigration policies so that they can bring about a more diverse society in order to diminish anti-Semitism and promote ‘Jewish ethnic interests’ must be questioned, especially in the post-September 11 world.”

Jews have little to gain by advocating for minority communities with which they haven’t much in common, culturally or socioeconomically, and who are likely to be hostile to them. How does promoting immigration from Muslim countries, for instance, benefit Jewish interests?
Jewish activism, if anything, is self-defeating as a group strategy. The community’s egalitarianism is thus more accurately seen as a function of liberal pathology, the same pathology so many Christian denominations exhibit – they all believe, mistakenly, that they are promoting ‘social justice.’
All in all, the paleoconservatives’ attempts to blame Jews for pervasive gentile madness, such as Mr. Bush’s war in Iraq, his lingering presence in Afghanistan, multiculturalism and ‘mass, non-traditional-immigration,’ is too silly to sustain, but, at the same time, a little sinister. (Next, MacDonald will hold Jews responsible for loading the Episcopal Church with homosexuals.)

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If you are interested, David interviewed me a while back, as part of a series of interviews with rightists about “Patriotism, Nationhood, and the American Indian.”

UPDATE (Aug. 15): From “Nation, State & Mass Immigration”:

“To say that America is a ‘nation of immigrants,’” writes commentator Lawrence Auster, “is to imply that there has never been an actual American people apart from immigration.”

It is to put America out of existence as a historically existing nation that immigrants and their children joined by coming here, a country with its own right to exist and to determine its own sovereign destiny—a right that includes the right to permit immigration or not. No patriot, no decent person who loves this country, as distinct from loving some whacked-out, anti-national, leftist idea of this country, would call it a ‘nation of immigrants.’

The people who established the American political order, described by Thomas Jefferson as “a composition of the freest principles of the English constitution … derived from natural right and natural reason,” were overwhelmingly British Christians. America’s Anglo-Saxon historical majority descends not from immigrants, but from English and Scots-Irish colonists. Over to Auster:

The immigrants of the late 19th and 20th centuries came to an American nation that had already been formed by those colonists and their descendants. Therefore to call America ‘a nation of immigrants’ is to suggest that America, prior to the late 19th-century wave of European immigration, was not America.”

10 thoughts on “UPDATED: It Takes An Indian

  1. james huggins

    Nation of immigrants? Not a nation of immigrants? Who cares? We’re here and here is where we’ll stay, if we have the intestinal fortitude to protect our home. Why do the “elite” of our society feel obligated to let anybody in who wants in? That’s dumb and cowardly. I don’t care about the Irish or the French Huegenots or the Russian Jews. They are all Americans now and the incoming waves of Muslims, Mexicans and Eskimos are not Americans and they don’t want to be. They just want to possess the country. I do not apologize for wanting to keep them out.

  2. David Smith

    Yes, as a “British” American (There was doubtless a time when it was assumed that that’s what being an American primarily meant) of mainly Scottish, Irish, and English antecedents, the foundations of our government, our jurisprudence is indeed Anglo-Saxon. As proud as I am about my “Celtic-ness” – and as much as we have contributed to the civilizations of both Britain and America (to include a great deal of blood!), our ideological foundations here are English. No, I’m not in denial about the often horrible way the English government treated our folk throughout history, but facts are nonetheless facts.

    This “nation of immigrants” nonsense has been the ideological trojan horse that has helped to dismantle much of the substance, if not the forms themselves, of our constitutional republican foundations. To say this doesn’t have an ethnic source to it is to simply deny things as they are. Massively replacing the founding population with others of different ethnicities, histories, traditions imperils so many of the institutions we take for granted. This has and will continue to have disastrous consequences.

  3. John McNeill

    Paleocons shoot themselves in the foot by pedaling ridiculous conspiracy theories about Jews. The truth is that the majority of Jews are ordinary people who, like gentile whites, don’t really spend too much time thinking about demographics, or deconstructing European culture. They’re more likely to think about their family, sports, movies, just like the vast majority of people. You cannot hold every Jew responsible for the sins of Abraham Foxman.

  4. Robert Glisson

    The city of Prague, Oklahoma was settled by, you got it- Czechs. I think the last weekend in May they have a heritage festival. For the remaining eleven months and three weeks, you can’t tell them from the rest of us Okies. Give forty hours work for forty hours pay, treat everyone as a neighbor. I don’t think anyone objects to that kind of immigrant.

  5. Andy

    It seems that common sense is a rare commodity in the modern immigration debate. The “nation of immigrants” claim is indeed very misleading and itself a progeny of political correctness. When it comes to Mexico, how many times have you heard someone say that the reason Mexico is the way it is might have something to do with the fact that Mexicans live there?

  6. Van Wijk

    Modern descendants of the Scots, the Irish, the Germans, the Italians, the Jews, etc., are first to declare that America is a nation of immigrants.

    I take exception to this remark. For one thing, the Scots and Scots-Irish (ethnic Scots living in Northern Ireland) were always more hard-nosed and pragmatic than their Irish neighbors, and not given to the romantic sentiment that currently surrounds the immigrant. Since the Scots-Irish represented the bulk of Confederate forces in the fight against homegrown tyranny, I have no problem placing them on par with the Anglo-Saxon Founders. For another thing, Americans of German and Italian descent are now among the staunchest immigration restrictionists, and the Italians are particularly outspoken in their views.

    It is Irish Catholics and Catholics in general (many, but not all, I hasten to add) who identify most with the notion of a “nation of immigrants,” and the entire weight of their argument is bent toward legitimizing the Mestizo conquest of the Southwest. They don’t care about European immigrants, past or present.

    [Superb comment.]

  7. Roger Chaillet

    It is the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church, and not Catholics in general, who wish to Mexicanize the U.S.

    As for “nation of immigrants,” this too is farcical.

    The oldest continuously operating Roman Catholic Church in the U.S. is located in Southern Maryland near the confluence of the Potomac River and Chesapeake Bay. http://www.stfrancisxavierchurch.org/history.htm I have been to this church, but not for services.

    This church is not far from the home of Dr. Samuel Mudd. Mudd was hanged for treason for abetting the escape of John Wilkes Booth. I attended grade school with the Mudd sisters. They were blood relatives of Dr. Mudd. The Mudd family arrived in the U.S. in 1665. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Mudd

  8. Mike Marks

    Since my family heritage is pretty well spread across western Europe I’ll just claim to be American. It’s quite confusing to try to be English, French, Dutch, Irish, Scottish, and possibly Jewish simultaneously. If I tried to maintain all these nationalies at once I’d have no real life to live as an American! Am I glad the founders were Anglo-Saxon with a good understanding of Judeo Christian traditions? Yes.

  9. Daniel

    The whole “nation of immigrants” rhetoric is pure nihilism. To put my Anglo-Saxon forebearers, who settled Jamestown and New England and who fought in the Revolutionary War, on par with a criminal illegal aliens from Mexico or jihad terrorists from Somalia is of the highest insult. Almost all of the Founding Fathers were of Anglo-Saxon stock, of the Christian persuasion (even if only in a nominal, unitarian form), and schooled in the political tradition handed down from the Greeks, Romans, and medieval Anglo-Saxons. The shaping of this nation owes far more to the Greeks and the Romans than it ever could to the Mexicans, or the Nigerians, or the Pakistanis, or which over group of immigrants is being championed by the liberal-left. This country was made by Christian, white men who were born to the soil of this nation. Not the abstract masses of the third world.

  10. Myron Pauli

    Well, while good white, northern European Protestants (and diest “Protestants”) were the bulk of our glorious, freedom-loving founders – many of the despicable descendents who became politicians like the Roosevelts (Dutch and British), Wilson, LBJ, and numerous Bushes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogical_relationships_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

    have done their best to destroy our rights and the concept of limited, constitutional government. Admittedly, much of this was in pandering to the votes of various immigrant and minority groups and controlling them with a lot of rules by the elites.

    Then, of course, there are other Juicidal groups (relatives of Ilana and myself) who back leftist-third-world policies. One can also throw in idiots like Bill Lann Lee who was a militant advocate of affirmative action even though Asians are the victims of such nonsense!

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