printBy federal fiat, US state schools and hospitals must bear the costs of teaching and treating illegal aliens because of federally granted rights. Unless the courts overturn these mandates, Obamacare will uphold federal provisions that are already on the books. By logical extension, Joe Wilson, South Carolina’s Republican Representative, was correct—if indecorous—in asserting, during Obama’s address to the chambers last week, that the president was not being truthful.
This college senior from Charleston is sufficiently savvy to mine the relevant source and deduce what the malfeasant media refuses even to entertain, let alone investigate:
“President Obama just swore that his plan would never include such an element, and there’s no reason for the president to lie. However, Obama has not published his own written plan, and the only written plans currently being considered are those bills in Congress. Therefore, we must test the president’s claim against those plans which do exist, chiefly HR 3200.”
“HR 3200 cannot hold up against some basic scrutiny. Republican-proposed amendments that would explicitly exclude illegal aliens from the legislation were voted down consistently by Democrats in committee hearings. Further, pages 50 and 51 of the HR 3200 legislation clearly read that ‘all health care and related services covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.'”
“Can proof of legal citizenship be reasonably considered a personal characteristic that is ‘extraneous to the provision of quality health care?’ Yes, it can: someone’s health can be cared for regardless of whether or not he or she is a citizen of a particular country. Reasonably, therefore, it may be concluded that HR 3200 provides care for illegal aliens. So indirectly, perhaps even unintentionally, the president did lie.”
“Hopefully, this exercise gives the health care debate new meaning. Wilson’s outburst, whatever you may think of it, embodies the frustration growing numbers of Americans feel over health care reform: namely, that the message being preached by President Obama and other Democrat leaders is simply not compatible with the dominant legislation at hand.”
On LIVING A LIE. Why the incredulity all around at the suggestion that a politician might lie? Jack Hunter speak to that general issue.
I read that many of the people using the National Health Service in Britain are foreigners who came in for the freebies (unfortunately no reference) – but it is a typical attribute of a welfare system.
It is well known that McCain and the Republicans did NOTHING to stop alien mooching – and one can hardly expect anything out of the Democrats either.
Actually, Presidents from Jefferson through Taft did not speak to Congress since it smacked of royalism – this dreadful phenomena was brought back by Woodrow Wilson, my nominee for worst (significant) President. In the British parliament, Joe Wilson would have been within his rights as a member of the opposition to question the PM.
Meanwhile, HYPOCRITE and LIAR Joe Wilson was among the 204 Republicans who voted FOR federal medical prescription drugs to illegal aliens (Ron Paul and 24 others voted NAY on 11/22/03)!! See thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/R?cp108:FLD010…
I will paste the passages from House 108-391 in a separate post.
[Great job]
This is from Bill HR 108-391 that Joe “LIAR” Wilson voted FOR (with 204 other Republicans):
“Subtitle B: Miscellaneous Provisions – (Sec. 1011) Appropriates for FY 2005 through 2008 specified funding out of any funds in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated to the Secretary for the purpose of making allotments to States for payments to eligible providers for unreimbursable costs incurred by providing emergency health care services to: (1) undocumented aliens; (2) aliens who have been parolded into the United States at a United States port of entry for the purpose of receiving eligible services; and (3) Mexican citizens permitted to enter the United States for not more than 72 hours under the authority of a biometric machine readable border crossing identification card.”
In other words, Wilson and the Republicans SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED stealing taxpayer money to provide health care to illegals and visiting Mexicans!! So Joe Wilson is what I would call a “subject matter expert”
on providing federal health benefits to illegals.
[Please provide links to the bill/quote.]
ilana, myRon, David Giffin, excellent research using the politicians’ own words and actions to show the hypocrisy of 98.7% of all of them.
HR 1 by Hastert-Bush was the Rep. stepping stone to the Dem. health care reform they are trying to shove down our throats today.(Bipartisan Ya Know)
108-391 has helped destroy what was once the finest emergency care system in the world here in So Cal, and grinding it down into total disarray in 5 short years.
It’s a story that needs to be told to point out the danger of what happens when ” the Dofusses of DC ” get there mittens on anything.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2003-669
2 trigger happy LOL
Here is the main page for Hr 1
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h108-1
This is the house vote
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2003-669
Senate vote
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=s2003-459
108-391
http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/?&sid=cp1084D8tJ&refer=&r_n=hr391.108&db_id=108&item=&sel=TOC_0&
The “illegal alien section: is 1101 (so much for Republicans passing a simple bill)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c108:5:./temp/~c108aLohML:e1172793:
Hope this link works. Otherwise, GOOGLE
thomas.loc.gov, go to 108-391 and do a FIND
of the word CITIZEN.
If even 3 out of the 204 Republicans had switched, the bill would have failed – anyway, if this is what the Republicans in Congress eagerly produced, then contemplate these questions:
(a) what monstrosities will come out of the Democrats?
(b) what further monstrosities from the bureaucrats and Czars like Sunstein who get to “interpret” the “Health Care Reform”?
(c) what additional nonense will arise when the Federal Courts get to throw in their own “interpretations” with Eric Holder, Kathleen Sibelius, and Elana Kagan representing the Administration?
But since he approved the original bill that gave the clearance to Illegal Immigrants for funding, and efforts by he and other Republicans to make it illegal NOW, he is in a perfect position to say “You lie” when the presided swore that the Illegals would not receive funding. True he made a mistake, blunder, screw up in the past and is responsible for that, but we need to remember that it is today that counts.