printBefore you boo, and insist that sitting on the political fence and preening your perfect libertarian feathers (from the imagery you can see I’m quite taken with that green little leprechaun, T. Cup, my parrot) is the only principled position, remember that Ron Paul endorsed Constitution Party nominee, Chuck Baldwin.
Now, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann have come out in support of Doug Hoffman for the 23rd Congressional District of New York. He belongs to the Conservative Party. Who are they? Where is their platform? I see he equivocates about the war, although to be fair it doesn’t sound as though he wants it perpetuated:
“We are past the point of pointing fingers over how we got to where we are in Iraq and Afghanistan. The question for us now is where do we go from here? I believe we must continue to try and turn the security and governing of Iraq over to the Iraqis.”
I know the Constitution Party is against foreign entanglements.
In any event, it’s good that the two women are deepening the rift between the GOP’s liberal wing and its hard-right faction.
I’ve never heard of the ‘Conservative Party’.
I see from reading Hoffman’s website that he leads off by displaying his ignorance of economics.
If we don’t fix the money issue, we’re doomed.
I don’t see any evidence of an awakening by either of those two pretty ladies, either. Maybe we should send them a copy of Ron Paul’s new book. Do you think they would read it?
Am I sitting on the fence?
New York’s Conservative Party formed in the 1960’s to oppose Nelson Rockefellers big government plutocrat Republicans (the Bush of the 1960’s). From age 14 until I left New York, I worked with the Robert A. Taft Conservative Club of Sunnyside Queens where we elected Rosemary Gunning (Assembly) and James Buckley (US Senate) as Conservatives. Praise to Doug, Michele and Sarah for not being “compassionate” (e.g. debtaholic) conservatives.
Hoffman is against an anti-immigrant wall (how else to stem the problem??) and is fuzzy on the War on Terror. He is probably (??) an enthusiastic Drug Warrior although such a stand is ideologically opposite to his good stance on the 2nd Amendment. I can’t say that I liked his phrasing: “as the economy picks up we can work to insure everyone” – entitlements enacted in good times are as odious as entitlements enacted during recessions. On spending, he is as feckless as McCain, attacking “earmarks” but nothing substantive like agribusiness subsidies, HUD, Dep’t of Education, mission to Mars, bases in Italy, Amtrak….
Still, perfect is the enemy of good and he is almost certainly the best candidate on the ballot. I applaud Doug, Sarah and Michele for thinking outside the (Republicrat) box.
“Before you boo”
I say way cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am glad Hoffman is getting support. If he wins, it will set the table for reshaping congress and that reshaping should include Ron-Paul like candidates.
Gold is where you find it. Sometimes in a large nugget beside a murky stream like Ron Raul and his son. Others like Mr. Hoffman seem to be small nuggets in a thick layer of opaque quartz. ie: He sounds like a Reagan Republican to me, but like Mr.s Bleckert and Pauli state, a little conservative is better than nothing. I applaud the two ladies for their outspokenness.
“We are past the point of pointing fingers over how we got to where we are in Iraq and Afghanistan.” what’s his name
I want fingers pointed, eggs scrambled, crow stewed and children taunting those responsible. Forgiveness is fine and necessary but I want to see some genuine repentance inspired by social ostracism. There should be a social price for being a fool and leading others astray.
(Besides, it is lonely in the dunce corner, I need company.)
I vicariously love T. Cup.
Somewhat endorsing M. B.’s comments on Af-Pak-Iraq – remember that Nixon inherited a mess in Vietnam – but continued it on with 3 million additional deaths (2 million from spreading into Cambodia).
When you get elected to Congress, you have the OBLIGATION – under Article 1 Section 8 – to be involved in whether or not to continue these “undeclared” wars. If that is not public service, then I don’t know what is.
“Still, perfect is the enemy of good and he is almost certainly the best candidate on the ballot. “ Myron
Even Ron Paul is not perfect (in my eyes) but he is so close that I’ll chock it up to my bad eyes.
Nope. I prefer outright evil to mediocrity. We are being mediocred to death.
‘So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth. Revelation 3:16
Bring on the draft, carbon taxes and whatever else the loonies can think of. A large dose of arsenic is usually vomited up and the victim will live. A low dose over time will kill.
Ah, never mind. Just bring on the cold as hard and as long as necessary to discredit those who mislead.
Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the earth for three years and six months. James 5:17
(Yes, it is in 1st Kings somewhere.)
One thing’s for sure. The Hoffman candidacy, no matter what the outcome, has opened up a gigantic Pandora’s Box. Consider that for decades the Libertarian Party has been clammoring for Republican support for their 3rd party ballot line candidates in such special circumstance elections, (i.e. the Shelly Sekula-Gibbs for the TX Tom DeLay seat in 2006 fiasco).
Republicans have said all along, “oh no, no, no, we can never back a 3rd party effort,” even when a Libertarian is the only one on the ballot against a Democrat.
Now, they’ll never, ever be able to make that claim again. Hoffman has cleared the way for future Libertarian Party support from the Republican Party. And remember, the Libertarian Party runs an average of 800 to 1,000 candidates nationwide each election cycle.
Eric – you are dreaming. Wake up!