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The Survivalist’s Guide to ‘Obammunism’ & Beyond

Classical Liberalism, Debt, Economy, Government, Healthcare, libertarianism, Political Economy, Regulation, Socialism, The State, Welfare

“The Survivalist’s Guide to ‘Obammunism’ & Beyond” is the current column.

“No statist lies are safe from his scrutiny,” writes Lew Rockwell about economist Thomas J. DiLorenzo’s latest book. What follows is an excerpt from my conversation with professor DiLorenzo about, ”Organized Crime: The Unvarnished Truth About Government,” and the timeless truths to which it speaks.

5. ILANA MERCER: You write: “At the heart of the U.S. government’s continued takeover of the health care sector of the economy was a law passed during the Obama administration that would eventually drive the private health insurance industry out of business and transform it into a de facto nationalized industry.” Elaborate. Since, as you repeatedly warn, the natural laws of economics cannot be repealed, what will these health care exchanges achieve? How will they invariably be funded? What will be the cost to business? To the millions who’re losing coverage? Who will ultimately fork out for the per-head fee imposed on medical plans?

THOMAS DILORENZO: The Obama version of health-care socialism forces insurance companies to cover people with expensive diseases without charging them higher rates to compensate for the additional risk. This effectively will force the insurance companies to pay out billions in health care costs, and then the Obammunists will impose price controls on the industry because that’s what socialists always do once they intervene in a market by forcing businesses to offer something for nothing, thereby driving demand through the roof. The price controls will cause massive bankruptcy, at which point the argument will be made that what is needed is “single-payer healthcare,” a euphemism for health-care socialism or government-run monopoly. In the meantime, they seem to be imposing hundreds of relatively small, hidden taxes to come up with the revenue to keep the scheme going.

6. MERCER: “The Obamacare Survival Guide” is a best-seller on Amazon. The market is producing survivalist literature to help Americans navigate the treacherous shoals of this law. What does it tell you? Like me, you must know plenty of Obama-heads (doctors too) who shrugged off the idea that further centralizing health care—a modest healthcare expansion totaling $2 trillion, I believe—would cost them anything at all. As The Lancet recently confirmed, in the UK’s National Health Service funding is inversely related to patient outcomes. You speak of “inputs” and “outputs.”

DILORENZO: I cited a study by the late Milton Friedman entitled “Inputs and Outputs in Medical Care,” published by the Hoover Institution some twenty years ago. In it the Nobel laureate economist showed that, historically, as government became more and more involved in health care by taking over hospitals and funding Medicare and Medicaid, inputs – in terms of money spent – skyrocketed while “output” in terms of patients served declined. He spoke of something called “Gammon’s Law,” named after a British physician named Max Gammon, who noticed that with healthcare socialism in England, increased “inputs” in the form of massive amounts of money spent always seemed to disappear “as though through a black hole” with little or nothing to show for it in terms of health care.

7. MERCER: You touch briefly on the “private component of GDP.” Free-market thinkers get that the private economy alone produces wealth. But no. GDP is a political construct, defined, tracked and manipulated by the D.C. political machine. Unpack the GDP gambit for us, down to its deceptive components.

DILORENZO: Including government spending in the definition of GDP was a creation of John Maynard Keynes, who defined it as C (Private Consumption) + I (Private Investment) + G (Government Purchases) + X-M (Net Exports). In so doing, Keynesians concluded that the most prosperous year in American economic history – 1946 – was actually a year of revival of the Great Depression with a precipitous drop in economic activity because of the huge decline in federal government spending after World War II. Of course, this was NOT a year of depression but an explosion of private investment, consumption, and job creation.

8. MERCER: About that elusive economic recovery: My colleague Vox Day (who sadly called it a day on WND) argued that, “The Great Depression 2.0 will be worse than its predecessor.” Day chalked that up to today’s unprecedented levels of debt, consumption and credit, private and public. It’s a hunch. But I think you’ll disagree.

DILORENZO: No one can predict something like this, especially since today’s economy is vastly different from the 1930s. Capital markets are much more sophisticated, for one thing, although government regulators by the thousands do their best to destroy them – and with them what’s left of American capitalism. Predictions like this always ignore the resilience of entrepreneurs. As the Austrian Business Cycle theory of Mises and Hayek contends, it is the boom period where all the damage is done in the form of “malinvestment” – in the latest bust this was mostly in real estate. During the recession or depression is when entrepreneurs are forced to become more efficient, more inventive, more creative – or else. This is how the Japanese recovered from something much worse than a depression – long years of war and the dropping of atomic bombs on their country – in a little over a decade.

More on “sequesteria,” tax loopholes and Obamacare, at www.ilanamercer.com, where the conversation with professor DiLorenzo continues.

Read the complete column, “The Survivalist’s Guide to ‘Obammunism’ & Beyond.”

UPDATED: Guns Are Good For Me, But Not For Thee

Barack Obama, Constitution, Democrats, Family, Feminism, Gender, GUNS, Individual Rights, Pop-Culture, Psychology & Pop-Psychology, Regulation

A coterie of creepy kids converged today on DC. These modern-day freaks, the products of progressive parenting and pedagogy, put on a show worthy of the miniature reality show stars they are. (Watch Dance Moms to get a feel for the pathological, repulsive vernacular America’s kids are acquiring from the formative figures in their lives.)

The hallmark of an infantile society whose members lack an adult life: the canonization of The Kids.

Soon, the estrogen brigade on TV—right and left; Megyn Kelly and her slobbering sister on the other news stations—began beating on breast. The kids, the kids, you can’t use the “nation’s” little Buddhas—our demigods, our future (NOT)—in such a manner.

The participation of creepy kids—at the urging of their weepy, corpulent parents—in the celebration of 23 imperial orders in furtherance of federal tyranny was conflated by TV’s estrogen brigade with the NRA’s factual allusion to The Kids in this perfectly good NRA ad. It declares, “Protection for their kids, gun-free zones for ours:

“Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the ad’s narrator asks. “Then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools? Mr. Obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he’s just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security.”

UPDATE: I am all for child labor. But kids should be seen and not heard. (Humor alert, FB Friends.)

Thoughts On Gun Debate, Republikeynesians & The Practice of Proctology

Affirmative Action, Democracy, Democrats, Feminism, GUNS, Healthcare, Individualism Vs. Collectivism, Political Philosophy, Politics, Regulation, Republicans, Socialism

GUN LOBBY MADE ‘EM DO IT. Have you noticed how Democrats and their media lapdogs counter arguments for the natural right to self defense? They blame the “gun lobby.” Accordingly, it is not the gun owners who assert this right, but a monied gun lobby. This variation on the ad hominem argument allows these statists to bypass the debate about the right to defend life, liberty and property.

HOW LIKE DEMOCRATS. In arguing their case, tit-for-tat Republicans use the exact arguments their opponents use. Thus, instead of making a point against affirmative action and for individual merit, you find Fox Rinos like Dana Perino and Kimberly Guilfoile asking, “Where are the minorities” in Obama’s cabinet?

THE OBAMACARE SURVIVAL GUIDE. It’s a best-seller; # 47 on Amazon. I am sure that, like me, you know Obama-heads (doctors too) who shrugged off the idea that a further centralization of healthcare by “Obama’s Politburo Of Proctologists”— a modest healthcare expansion totaling $2 trillion—will cost them anything at all. I’m already feeling The Care. How about you? TAWE (The Ass With Ears) has sent the health care we had to hell in a handcart, for the ostensible benefit of less than ten percent of the population. In any case, if this “2,700 page law” made life easier, would the author of the ObamaCare Survival Guide be selling so many guides to so many perplexed people?

UPDATED: The Evil Emissaries From The Fabian F-ck-Up That Is Britain (Jones’ Fanaticism For … Freedom)

Britain, Conspiracy, GUNS, Individual Rights, Natural Law, Regulation

The Fabian fuck-up that is Britain has exported its evil emissaries to the US. These are self-appointed elites–for Piers Morgan and Martin Bashir are not what Thomas Jefferson considered the natural aristocracy, but what he called “an artificial aristocracy… without either virtue or talents.”

These British pillocks have already helped spearhead efforts in the crap country of England—where “a child is torn from the arms of a mother if the mother is obese or holds opinions unpalatable to her political and psychiatric masters”—the outcome of which is that mothers like Mrs. D. Herman (story below) are deprived of the natural right of self-defense.

From their respective public perches, Morgan and Bashir are currently suborning the same treason against our countrymen.

Via CNN’s excellent transcript service:

Donnie Herman was on the phone with his wife as an intruder was breaking into their home. Walton County Sheriff’s deputies say the mother works from the home on Henderson Ridge Drive. Her 9-year-old twins didn’t have school. Around noon, a strange man arrived at the door. Deputies say he began continuously ringing bell. When no one responded, he grabbed a crowbar from his truck. He pried his way in. That’s when the mother grabbed her kids, her gun, and hid in a crawl space.
SHERIFF JOE CHAPMAN, WALTON COUNTY, GEORGIA: The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time, he’s staring at her, her two children, and a .38 revolver.
CAVANAUGH: Sheriff Joe Chapman says the woman began firing all six rounds, hitting the suspect in the face and neck five times.
CHAPMAN: She starts yelling at him, stay down or I’m going to shoot you again. That’s when she gets her two children out of the crawl space, and they run downstairs and run out of the house to a neighbor next door.
CAVANAUGH: They ran next door, and the man took off in his truck. Sheriff Chapman says 32-year-old Paul Slater crashed up the road. Deputies found him on the ground. Chapman said he told the deputies, help me, I’m close to dying. The mother and her children were not harmed.
CHAPMAN: We’re in the neighborhood where several law enforcement officers lived, and I don’t think they could have handled the situation any better than what she did.
HERMAN: Her lives are saved, and her kids lives are saved. That’s all I’d like to say.

Having helped disarm ordinary mothers back in their own crap country, this white trash has washed up on our shores with similar intentions.

As a rationalist, I am not a conspiracy theorist. But some disagreement (among patriots) does nothing to undermine my assessment of Alex Jones. Here is what this great American patriot told the insufferably pompous Piers (the performance art that is Jones is worth watching):

“You’re a foreigner, a Redcoat, here telling us what to do. Go back where they took the guns if you don’t like it. [To] the communist [country that is the UK] … The republic will rise again. 1776 will commence again if you try and take our guns away.”

Here is the complete transcript for your enjoyment:

And joining me now is one of the people behind the petition, Alex Jones. He’s host of the “Alex Jones Show.”

Welcome to you.

ALEX JONES, HOST, “THE ALEX JONES SHOW”, INFOWARS.COM: Piers, thanks for having me.

MORGAN: Why do you want to deport me?

JONES: Well, we did it as a way to bring attention to the fact that we have all of these foreigners and the Russian government, the official Chinese government, now said political power goes out the barrel of a gun. It killed about 80 million people because he’s the only guy that have the guns. So we did it to point out that this is globalism, and the mega banks that control the planet and brag that they’ve taken over in Bloomberg, AP, Reuters, you name it, brag that they’re going to get our guns as well.

They’ve taken everybody’s guns but the Swiss and the American people. And when they get our guns, they can have their world tyranny while the government buys 1.6 billion bullets, armored vehicles, tanks, helicopters, predator drones, armed now in U.S. skies, being used to arrest people in North Dakota.

The Second Amendment isn’t there for duck hunting. It’s there to protect us from tyrannical government and street thugs. Take the women in India. Your piece earlier on CNN I was watching during Anderson Cooper’s show. Didn’t tell you that the women of India have signed giant petitions to get firearms because the police can’t and won’t protect them. The answer is —

(CROSSTALK)

Wait a minute. I have FBI crime statistics that come out a year late, 2011, 20-plus percent crime drop in the last nine years. Real violent crime because more guns means less crime. Britain took the guns 15, 16 years ago. Tripling of your overall violent crime. True we have a higher gun violence level, but overall, muggings, stabbings, deaths, you — those men raped that woman in India to death with an iron rod four feet long.

You can’t ban the iron rods. The guns — the iron rods, Piers, didn’t do it, the tyrants did it. Hitler took the guns, Stalin took the guns, Mao took the guns. Fidel Castro took the guns.

MORGAN: OK. How many —

JONES: Hugo Chavez took the guns, and I’m here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms. It doesn’t matter how many lemmings you get out there on the street begging for them to have their guns taken. We will not relinquish them. Do you understand?

That why you’re going to fail and the establishment knows no matter how much propaganda, the republic will rise again when you attempt to take our gun. My family in the Texas revolution in Santa Ana. My family was at the core on both sides starting left, because Santa Ana came to take the guns at Gonzalez, Texas.

Piers, don’t try what your ancestors did before. Why don’t you come to America, I’ll take you out shooting. You can become an American and join the republic.

MORGAN: Are you finished?

JONES: Yes, I am finished. You will not take my right. You go through background checks to get guns. How about Prozac? You know the — that’s a big sponsor, isn’t it? That whole class of drugs.

MORGAN: Let me ask you a question.

JONES: No, whoa, got to cut that off, don’t you? Don’t want to talk about — the U.S. number one cause of death is suicide now because they give people suicide mass murder pills.

MORGAN: Calm down. Calm down.

JONES: Your answers give more money to the psychiatrists and psychologists to put more crazy people on drugs so they could kill people, Piers.

MORGAN: Let’s try and have a debate here.

JONES: Yes.

MORGAN: Answer me this question.

JONES: I’m sick of the same old script here, bud.

MORGAN: That’s fine, bud. How many gun murders were there in America last year? Do you know?

JONES: There were about 11,458, and about 70 percent of those were gang related. Gang bangers shooting each other. You get three and a half to four —

MORGAN: OK. That wasn’t —

JONES: How many people died from infections in hospitals? 197,000 —

MORGAN: So let me just ask you the second question —

JONES: That’s right.

MORGAN: How many gun murders were there in Britain last year?

JONES: How many great white sharks —

MORGAN: No, how many —

JONES: kill people every year but they’re scared to swim?

MORGAN: Right. How many gun murders were there in Britain?

JONES: A very low amount. I hardly remember those statistics.

MORGAN: How many, do you know?

JONES: That was only a few hundred.

MORGAN: No, no. How many gun murders?

JONES: I actually — actually brought statistics. Here, let me pull them out right here. I think I could do that.

MORGAN: Gun murders last year — JONES: Oh, wait, UK violent crime, capital of Europe. “London Telegraph.” Here let me give you more.

MORGAN: It’s quite a simple question.

JONES: Well, that’s the oldest —

MORGAN: You’re a very loud man.

JONES: That’s the old — no, no. That’s the oldest, very basic tactics —

MORGAN: You make a lot of noise.

JONES: — to ask me some little factoids.

MORGAN: That — they’re not little factoids.

JONES: I already said earlier .

MORGAN: We’re talking about a country —

JONES: England has a lot lower gun crime rate because you took all the guns.

MORGAN: Let me — let me — exactly my point.

JONES: But you’ve got hoards of people burning down cities and beating old women’s brains out every day.

MORGAN: What a ridiculous (INAUDIBLE).

JONES: They arrest people in England, if they defend themselves, that’s on record. My god, you’ve got a total police state. Everybody is fleeing that country because the — you had to flee here, bud.

(CROSSTALK)

JONES: Why don’t you tell folks — yes, you fled here. Why don’t you go back and face the charges with the hacking scandal?

MORGAN: Answer this question. How many guns —

JONES: Why did you get fired from “The Daily Mirror” for putting that fag stories?

MORGAN: How —

JONES: You’re a hatchet man of the new world order. You’re a hatchet man. And I want to say this right here, you think you’re a tough guy? Have me back with a boxing ring in here, and I’ll wear red, white, and blue, and you can wear your jolly roger.

MORGAN: OK.

JONES: You know — MORGAN: Let’s try again. How many gun murders were there —

JONES: You’re going to bang your fist now?

MORGAN: — in Britain last year?

JONES: How many chimpanzees can dance on a head of a pin? I already went over those statistics.

MORGAN: You know the answer?

JONES: No, I don’t.

MORGAN: You said hundreds.

JONES: It’s very low.

MORGAN: You said hundreds.

JONES: Yes.

MORGAN: It’s actually 35.

JONES: Well, the point is you can —

MORGAN: Against 11,000. Do you understand the difference in 11,000 and 35?

JONES: Yes, England wants to ban knives now because tens of thousands are getting stabbed.

MORGAN: Do you understand the difference —

JONES: The knives? The knife doesn’t kill people. The gun doesn’t kill people.

MORGAN: Do you understand — yes. Do you understand the difference?

JONES: Do you understand —

MORGAN: Between 35 —

JONES: You’re not going to pull on America’s heartstrings.

MORGAN: — and 11,000?

JONES: They know your script. OK? You’re not going to get our guns. By the way, you guys always say we just want to take the semiautos. OK? And all this other stuff. The semiautos aren’t even — rifles aren’t even used but in a fraction of the crimes. You can pull those numbers up, OK?

No, no, no. Hold on.

MORGAN: Let me ask you one question, which weapon was predominantly used in the Aurora movie theater shooting? JONES: An M-4 AR-15 variant.

MORGAN: So it was a semiautomatic assault rifle.

JONES: Yes. Again —

MORGAN: OK. Next question.

JONES: But statistically, it’s very, very low.

MORGAN: That was — do you agree it was the single biggest shooting in the history of America in terms of people hit by a shooter? Do you know that?

JONES: Now I believe that there were others —

MORGAN: No, no. It’s —

(CROSSTALK)

JONES: Some other students over 30.

MORGAN: No, no. This was the single biggest mass shooting —

JONES: Well, listen, you just don’t want —

MORGAN: No. I’m going to —

JONES: There have been bombings of Wall Street.

MORGAN: Let me ask you a second question.

JONES: Are we going to — listen, why can’t —

(CROSSTALK)

MORGAN: Let me ask you a second question.

JONES: We trust them to fly the planes.

MORGAN: You’ve had a lot to say, just answer this question.

JONES: No, my point is that the Second Amendment is sacrosanct.

MORGAN: Do you know —

JONES: And you’re not getting it.

MORGAN: Do you know which weapon was used in the Oregon shopping mall mass shooting recently?

JONES: I understand that people who were mentally ill on all the —

MORGAN: Do you know what weapon —

(CROSSTALK) JONES: Taken inhibiters who play the shoot them up games —

MORGAN: Alex.

JONES: — want to go out and do this.

MORGAN: Alex.

JONES: Because there’s criminals, I don’t lose my rights, Piers.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex.

JONES: Because there’s criminals, I don’t lose my rights.

MORGAN: Alex. Just answer the question.

JONES: Yes.

MORGAN: Do you know what the weapon used was?

JONES: Listen. Let me ask you a question.

MORGAN: No, no. Answer —

JONES: I’ve got the FBI statistics.

MORGAN: Alex.

JONES: Listen.

MORGAN: No, no.

JONES: That the so-called semiautos that you’re talking about —

MORGAN: Let’s take a break. Let’s take a break. When we come back try —

JONES: Again, you’re not going to get the guns —

MORGAN: When we come back, try and answer my question. OK?

JONES: Yes. All you’re going to do is sit there and play little factoid questions. Overall crime has gone down in 20 percent.

MORGAN: Yes, it’s about that.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

MORGAN: Back now with Alex Jones, a man who says I should be deported for my stand on guns.

Sir Alex, here’s how this is going to work. And it’s entirely down to you. I’m going to ask you some questions. In the spirit of a proper debate, you’ve had a lot to say so far on the show, a lot of it aimed at me which his fine. But I want you to try and answer the questions. This is a proper debate. OK? I’m not trying to trip you up. JONES: No, it’s not a debate. You’re running the show.

MORGAN: OK. OK.

JONES: You bring in your victims up front.

MORGAN: OK. As you know —

JONES: Look. You’ve got your little note cards.

MORGAN: OK. OK.

JONES: I just gave you FBI statistics that violent crime —

MORGAN: Fine. Alex, Alex.

JONES: — and gun crime is down over 20 percent.

MORGAN: Alex, let me ask you this.

JONES: And you want to go to little factoids.

MORGAN: No. They’re not little factoids.

JONES: Anybody can pull those up. Listen.

MORGAN: Do you know what —

JONES: Do you have a body guard?

MORGAN: Alex.

JONES: Why do you have body guards?

MORGAN: I don’t have a body guard.

JONES: Yes, I’ve seen you on the news with them.

MORGAN: I don’t have a body guard.

JONES: Don’t you want to protect your wife from hoodlums or you want to call the police?

MORGAN: Let me ask you this question?

JONES: Why does Dianne Feinstein —

MORGAN: Alex. Alex.

JONES: — tell “60 Minutes” that she plans —

MORGAN: OK. Alex.

JONES: — to try and take Mr. And Mrs. America’s guns?

MORGAN: Don’t be (INAUDIBLE) over me. JONES: You guys want to disarm all of America.

MORGAN: No, I don’t.

JONES: Dianne Feinstein’s bill does.

MORGAN: No, I don’t. I don’t.

JONES: Gun confiscation.

MORGAN: No. Let me clarify for you. You don’t seem to understand what —

JONES: First you register, then you confiscate.

MORGAN: No.

JONES: It’s always on the side, Piers.

MORGAN: What the campaign —

JONES: Well, here, give me your little queue cards and I’ll answer your questions for you.

MORGAN: What was the weapon used at Sandy Hook?

JONES: I have already gone over that. Already answered it for you.

MORGAN: We haven’t talked about Sandy Hook.

JONES: No. Again —

MORGAN: What was the weapon?

JONES: It’s a 223 M-4.

MORGAN: Right.

JONES: Again. But statistically they’re using very low percentage of — of shooting —

(CROSSTALK)

MORGAN: Right. But are you — are you seeing —

JONES: But you guys —

MORGAN: Are you seeing a pattern —

JONES: People wouldn’t go swimming because the movie “Jaws” even though great white sharks kill five people a year.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex. Alex.

JONES: You’re trying to scare people.

MORGAN: Let me say something.

JONES: There’s no metal shark in the water.

MORGAN: The same type of weapon was used in the last three mass shootings.

JONES: Yes. And that’s right. And Hitler used semiautos to kill people.

MORGAN: Why would you now —

JONES: And so did Mao.

MORGAN: Why would you —

JONES: Why is the government (INAUDIBLE) against this?

MORGAN: Why — Alex. I don’t —

JONES: What about “Fast and Furious”?

MORGAN: Alex.

JONES: Why did our government ship guns to Mexico?

MORGAN: Calm down. Alex.

JONES: To blame the Second Amendment?

MORGAN: Let’s have a debate.

JONES: A false flag?

MORGAN: Alex, I get accused —

JONES: To blame the Second Amendment?

MORGAN: I get accused —

JONES: Why they blow up buildings down the street here in New York?

MORGAN: Alex. Alex. I get accused when I get you guys on of talking over you, of being rude. I’m trying to be civil. All right?

JONES: Yes.

MORGAN: You’ve got to try and answer some of the questions, right? Here is my issue for you. Why do people need — civilians need an AR- 15 type assault weapon? Why —

JONES: I’ve already said statistically, they’re used in a very low amount of the crimes.

MORGAN: Look, answer the question.

JONES: That’s an FBI fact. (CROSSTALK)

MORGAN: They’ve been used in the last three mass shootings.

JONES: Yes.

MORGAN: Why —

JONES: I’ll tell you why. Because they advertise it in the media. Anybody knows that if someone jumps off the Empire State Building, they put cops up there the next day because copy cats come to do it again. The media hypes and hypes and hypes —

MORGAN: That’s not the question.

JONES: Go just commit suicide —

MORGAN: Alex, why do people need them?

JONES: Go commit suicide by killing a bunch of kids and here’s the gun to use —

MORGAN: Alex.

JONES: — because it’s the one the U.S. Army uses.

MORGAN: Why do people need them?

JONES: They need them to protect us from the number one killer in history. Government of the 20th century university study out of Hawaii killed — two million people. It’s called democide. Google it, folks.

MORGAN: Do you believe everyone in America — should everyone in America —

JONES: Yes. Yes.

MORGAN: — therefore have an AR-15 if they want one?

JONES: Statistically, where there’s mo more guns, there’s lower crime. The highest crime is in Bloomberg, you know —

MORGAN: But you have the most guns than any of the 23 richest countries in the world. And you have —

(CROSSTALK)

JONES: Well, America was born on guns and whiskey.

MORGAN: Right. But —

JONES: It’s true we’re a violent society.

MORGAN: Right. The fact that America has the most guns —

JONES: But statistically knives kill three times more.

MORGAN: And the most gun murders.

JONES: Have you seen the FBI numbers? Knives, bats, rocks.

MORGAN: Let’s talk guns —

JONES: Kill many, many times more.

MORGAN: Let’s talk — Alex, let’s talk about the guns.

JONES: It’s not the — it’s not the rock, it’s not the knife.

MORGAN: Right.

JONES: When a mother chops her kids up with a cleaver —

MORGAN: Alex. Alex. Alex. Tell me why I’m wrong about the AR-15 —

JONES: Why don’t you want to get rid of drugs?

(CROSSTALK)

JONES: Is they’re half your sponsors?

MORGAN: Stick to the topic.

JONES: America’s number one cause of unnatural deaths now is suicide.

MORGAN: OK. Alex.

JONES: Not automobile accident.

MORGAN: Let’s try again.

JONES: Not cancer. Listen.

MORGAN: You accuse me of attacking the Second Amendment of the Constitution.

JONES: I want to get people off pills that the insert says will make you commit suicide —

MORGAN: Alex.

JONES: — and kill people.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex. Let’s get about the Second Amendment.

JONES: I want to blame the real culprit.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex.

JONES: Suicide pills.

MORGAN: Alex. JONES: Mass murder pills.

MORGAN: OK. Let me ask you one question. Your belief — unless I’m wrong —

JONES: First time anybody has ever heard this, by the way.

MORGAN: Your belief, unless I’m wrong, is that under the Second Amendment, your real concern is that you will be overrun by a tyrannical regime, either from somewhere else —

JONES: Yes.

(CROSSTALK)

Look at Mexico. Total gun ban for the citizens. Highest crime rate in the world. Fifty-seven thousand people dead in the last five years. Total gun ban for the citizens.

MORGAN: But you — your main —

JONES: Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex.

JONES: Your country has the highest.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex. We have 35 gun murders, you have 11,000.

JONES: You have — people — it’s their brains. It’s the higher crime rate.

MORGAN: Alex, let me ask you —

JONES: Violent crime is higher.

MORGAN: On this specific —

JONES: It’s brains. It’s people.

MORGAN: Alex, I’m trying to get inside your brain.

JONES: Piers, if you punched me right now, it’d be — not your first but your brain.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex. Let me get inside your brain.

JONES: OK.

MORGAN: OK? I’m serious, you have a very, very big platform. You’re airing I think on 63 networks.

JONES: No. No. That — WikiPedia is like 10 years old. I went over 140 stations. XM.

MORGAN: OK. Millions of Americans hear you every day. JONES: Over a million half listeners, InfoWars.com.

MORGAN: And I —

JONES: We’ll have the statistics posted right now.

MORGAN: OK. OK.

JONES: InfoWars.com.

MORGAN: Who do you believe was behind 9/11?

JONES: I absolutely know. I have the police on CNN saying get back, they’re going to blow up seven. I have BBC reporter —

MORGAN: Yes, but who do you believe was behind it?

JONES: I have the proof. And I heard them on CBS radio.

MORGAN: Who? Who, Alex?

JONES: They announced they blew up the towers on CBS Radio. New Yorkers all saw and heard it.

MORGAN: Alex, who do you believe —

JONES: They blew up Building 7.

MORGAN: Alex, who do you believe was behind it? The American government?

JONES: Criminal elements of the military and industrial complex, the same ones that staged (INAUDIBLE), the same ones that staged operation —

MORGAN: Right.

JONES: The mass shootings, Operation Gladio.

MORGAN: Right. Right.

JONES: Ooh, the CIA don’t like this right now.

MORGAN: Alex. Alex. Do you mean that President Bush and his administration were behind 9/11?

JONES: I mean that even mainstream news reported that the hijackers were ordered to be allowed into the United States. Michael Springman, the head of the visa department, blew the whistle on that.

MORGAN: Right. So the Bush administration was part of the conspiracy to murder —

JONES: Well, he said never let us tolerate —

MORGAN: To murder thousands of Americans — JONES: To murder, to murder — I can speak in this accent as well.

MORGAN: Yes. But is that what you believe?

JONES: The government — Hitler fired bombs and turned rash tag, Piers. To bring in martial law in Germany, April 27th, 1933. Governments have staged terror attacks throughout history or allowed terrorists to attack as a pretext to invade and enslave a population.

MORGAN: How many gun do you own? How many guns do you own?

JONES: I probably own more than 50 firearms. Many of them have increased in value two or three, or even four times. I sleep very comfortably outside Austin, Texas.

MORGAN: Alex —

JONES: Knowing that I can defend my family.

MORGAN: OK. Alex Jones is the man —

JONES: InfoWars.com.

MORGAN: This is the man who wants to deport me from the country for wanting to get rid of assault rifles —

JONES: No. No. It’s to point out you’re a foreigner, a Redcoat, here telling us what to do.

MORGAN: Which to me (INAUDIBLE) outrageous. Whatever.

JONES: Go back where they took the guns if you don’t like it. The communist —

UPDATE: On Facebook readers denigrate Alex Jones. My reply:

Most of the ostensibly conservative gun-rights advocates in American media support onerous regulation. Alex Jones is an oddball, but he’s more libertarian (a free man) than any welfare-warfare Republican you Brits watch and admire from afar in America’s mainstream media. And The Jones persona is as American as apple pie. Piers is not fit to sit in his presence. Jones is what I love about America. Rant? This was performance art. Piers was like a dead fish flailing before this wonderful fanatic for … freedom.